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    Me again... Quick question. I noticed that I usually have two choices, clip demolish at around 3 or 4 secs, or let it fall off and reapply one GCD later, sometimes two. Which is best?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hivernica View Post
    Me again... Quick question. I noticed that I usually have two choices, clip demolish at around 3 or 4 secs, or let it fall off and reapply one GCD later, sometimes two. Which is best?
    wait until it actually fall off/reapply later, except if you have buff like bfb, IR or pot
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    He uses Fracture a lot in these T9 / T9 Savage runs, but not so much in Final Coil. And he was unable to articulate when to use Fracture other than "if Demolish is at 5s, that's a clear sign". His style has always appeared to be more John F'ing Madden than anything rigid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    He uses Fracture a lot in these T9 / T9 Savage runs, but not so much in Final Coil. And he was unable to articulate when to use Fracture other than "if Demolish is at 5s, that's a clear sign". His style has always appeared to be more John F'ing Madden than anything rigid.
    LOOL at the John Madden reference. I just imagined him saying "You see that demolish coming at ya then BOOM pop that fracture (insert squiggly lines). " I do notice sometimes, later on in the rotation, i have a second or 2 left on IR b4 it's ready to be used at the same time Demo is at these higher skill speeds, so I guess that would be the spot to fracture IR demo. I'll try it out some more then and see what i get. Thanks for responding.

    Edit: Yea my TP is just flowing out of the bar like water using fracture like Rialmer does in those vids. I can see why Rialmer doesnt use it in Final Coil lol. Bard would be pissed xD. I'll just stick to the tod and demo. Maybe if these fights had a few more breaks in em I'd do it, but currently I'd just be "stealing" deeps from our bard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    LOOL at the John Madden reference. I just imagined him saying "You see that demolish coming at ya then BOOM pop that fracture (insert squiggly lines). " I do notice sometimes, later on in the rotation, i have a second or 2 left on IR b4 it's ready to be used at the same time Demo is at these higher skill speeds, so I guess that would be the spot to fracture IR demo. I'll try it out some more then and see what i get. Thanks for responding.

    Edit: Yea my TP is just flowing out of the bar like water using fracture like Rialmer does in those vids. I can see why Rialmer doesnt use it in Final Coil lol. Bard would be pissed xD. I'll just stick to the tod and demo. Maybe if these fights had a few more breaks in em I'd do it, but currently I'd just be "stealing" deeps from our bard.
    If you have a ninja it is a gooid time to use it; goad basically gives you a 15 or so DPS increase because of allowing you to use fracture full time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Odowla View Post
    If you have a ninja it is a gooid time to use it; goad basically gives you a 15 or so DPS increase because of allowing you to use fracture full time.
    Yea, only downside is Im the ninja and the monk lol. So I'm SOL.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    If you want references, Monk is a very Bruce Lee kind of DPS.

    "Don't think! Feeeeel."

    "There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you."

    "Empty your mind; be formless, shapeless, like water."


    Feeling like a B Lee badass is one of the reasons i love monk. Was too hyped when they showed monk AF2 way back in Dec 2013 live letter and show B Lee as inspiration for it.
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    If you want references, Monk is a very Bruce Lee kind of DPS.

    "Don't think! Feeeeel."

    "There are no limits. There are plateaus, but you must not stay there, you must go beyond them. If it kills you, it kills you."

    "Empty your mind; be formless, shapeless, like water."
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    I have a couple questions for monks about what they usually do when they are about to grab hate form a tank? Have had times when I attack their marked target and try to switch targets before I pull it off of them but they tend to get mad. I try to slow my DPS they get mad. I go ahead and pull it off and kill it they get mad. This happens a lot in duty finder only though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowYomi View Post
    I have a couple questions for monks about what they usually do when they are about to grab hate form a tank? Have had times when I attack their marked target and try to switch targets before I pull it off of them but they tend to get mad. I try to slow my DPS they get mad. I go ahead and pull it off and kill it they get mad. This happens a lot in duty finder only though.
    I just swap targets or tank the one I pull threat on. There's a number of factors here to consider. If you are good at monk, and the tank isn't very good (pretty common for all jobs) then there's a good chance there's not much you can do. If you significantly outgear the tank then again there's not much you can do. In duty finder you can't expect much. If it's clear the tank is undergeared I just warn him ahead of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowYomi View Post
    I have a couple questions for monks about what they usually do when they are about to grab hate form a tank? Have had times when I attack their marked target and try to switch targets before I pull it off of them but they tend to get mad. I try to slow my DPS they get mad. I go ahead and pull it off and kill it they get mad. This happens a lot in duty finder only though.
    If its solo target. I usually switch to Fists of the Earth & Pop Keen Flurry/Bloodbath (Depending on whichever one I have allotted to my monk at the time.). Other than that, I use Second wind when my hp gets a little low, hope the healers heal me and hope the tank gets hate back soon. I don't stop dpsing though.
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