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    Hello, I have a really quick question.
    Should I let ToD and demo "fall off"? Like let the icon disappear or reapply when there's around 4 seconds left? It seems the dot doesn't apply right as I push the button, but when the animation finishes, which takes a few seconds.

    I was a dragoon for quite a while but tried monk again (I had monk to 50 quite a while before drg, but played drg) just for fun. I found it a lot less stressful because there's not as many skills to weave and stuff. Right now I'm really confused. I thought I loved dragoon. Neither are my main (it's scholar) but I'm done getting the gear I needed, I'm only crossing my fingers for my fcob gear now. I don't know what to do .-.
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    I'm sorry, I'm on my phone and I can't figure out how to edit.

    I hadn't read the post before mine. forget I ever posted.
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    Is there a link to Lucrezia's 454 SS monk's gear?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanelle View Post
    Is there a link to Lucrezia's 454 SS monk's gear?
    Furthermore, does the MNK have a youtube page with recent clears? Lucrezia's main page is very outdated (probably intentionally) and i'd love to see some of their strategies with maxed out gear. Their PLD recently put up 438 on T10 and their NIN pushed 600 ish on T12 from what i recall. The MNK was in the 580s.

    Edit - I just noticed he has a link to his twitch page on his lodestone.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Here's one of 'em. (Replicated on Ariyala's). Nice name change lol. As you can see, exactly 454 skill speed.

    The bootshiner whose askbox I read is retired from world-first stuff (for now) and is on another server entirely. ...and didn't log out as a monk today I guess.
    His Kaiser Knuckles have 35 Det, 31 ACC, 17 SS! Guess the JP MNK community have their own views on optimal Zodiac melds?
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    Here's one of 'em. (Replicated on Ariyala's). Nice name change lol. As you can see, exactly 454 skill speed.

    The bootshiner whose askbox I read is retired from world-first stuff (for now) and is on another server entirely. ...and didn't log out as a monk today I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    Here's one of 'em. (Replicated on Ariyala's). Nice name change lol. As you can see, exactly 454 skill speed.

    The bootshiner whose askbox I read is retired from world-first stuff (for now) and is on another server entirely. ...and didn't log out as a monk today I guess.
    That skill speed thing it's really interesting, what do you think about it guys?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Umbrax View Post
    That skill speed thing it's really interesting, what do you think about it guys?
    Im not so sure actually. At first i thought it was for the opener to get the 2nd demo up with all buffs. But i took off some gear yesterday to lower my SS from 460 to 412 (from 2.38 to 2.43 b4 gl3 is applied), and I was still able to get it up in time.

    For reference, u can be at 449 and still have the same gcd as 454 (2.39 b4 gl3), 439 -448 for 2.40, 428-438- 2.41, 418-427 for 2.42, and 407-417 for 2.43.

    At least for the opener, i dont see a reason for 454 versus 407.
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    I'm not really sold on it myself; the stated reason was to get Fracture and Touch of Death while still clipping Twin Snakes (at least if I'm reading this right). Something like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroyasha View Post
    For reference, u can be at 449 and still have the same gcd as 454 (2.39 b4 gl3), 439 -448 for 2.40, 428-438- 2.41, 418-427 for 2.42, and 407-417 for 2.43.
    Not quite. The displayed GCD time is rounded to the centisecond, but the GCDs themselves are still affected by the tiniest increase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyHirose View Post
    I'm not really sold on it myself; the stated reason was to get Fracture and Touch of Death while still clipping Twin Snakes (at least if I'm reading this right). I don't seem to have trouble doing this on a dummy at 395, even if I am just barely making it.

    Not quite. The displayed GCD time is rounded to the centisecond, but the GCDs themselves are still affected by the tiniest increase.
    Yes from 449 to 450 it's really 2.394184 to 2.393232. I just dont think that makes much of a practical difference, unless u got the fingers of God xD

    So He does fracture as well? I've always kept it out b/c of the TP cost. Does he do it after DK but b4 ToD(in the opener i mean)?
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    I doubt that it's for any reason other than to hit a specific skill speed, and with my limited knowledge of the language most of my investigations into whether JP MNKs actually like skill speed have only turned up debates on it. Pretty much the same points come up that come up in English-language discussions (hope your bard likes you, makes GL3 maintenance so ez, etc.). I'm guessing despite what has been stated in Live Letters (which might even be based on analysis of player data), it's more like a school of thought than a consensus.
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