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    Ossom Possom
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    I would also like to add, that you should pop ToD whenever it is down. Use Howling Fist and Steel Peak, whenever they are up.
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    Zli Diabetichar
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    well am starting to hit 600+ for a couple of secs (on the graph at least, sometimes even around 10 sec) but my average dps by the time i ran out of tp (4 - 4:30 aprox) still doesn't go past 495 (on my best tries, without a party buffs, pots or food or mercy stroke spam)
    Also i noticed when i use ToD, Demo runs out for at least a sec.

    P.S. If this continues am gonna merry the dummy, since we spend so much time together :/
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    Last edited by zlotjko; 12-19-2014 at 11:19 PM.

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    Ricdeau Cyton
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlotjko View Post
    well am starting to hit 600+ for a couple of secs (on the graph at least, sometimes even around 10 sec) but my average dps by the time i ran out of tp (4 - 4:30 aprox) still doesn't go past 495 (on my best tries, without a party buffs, pots or food or mercy stroke spam)
    Also i noticed when i use ToD, Demo runs out for at least a sec.

    P.S. If this continues am gonna merry the dummy, since we spend so much time together :/
    Dropping Demo for a second or two at times isn't totally abnormal. Without seeing you in action it's hard to say what's going awry. You should be averaging over 500 on a full TP run on the dummy. Your timeframes look normal. 4-4:30 depending on SS. I'll have to check your previous attack breakdown next to my own and see what difference there is. I'm still using an i115 weapon, but your DPS is below my own. I have hours of parsing to compare it to though. I spend a lot of quality time with my training dummy.

    Also can you provide damage totals for each ability from a parse? This can help us see glaring issues quickly if something is being under utilized or mismanaged.
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    Last edited by Ricdeau; 12-20-2014 at 12:17 AM.

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    Vik Vicious
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    Try opening with PB instead of Shoulder Tackle. Also, try PB > Snap > IR > Snap > BfB > Demo > Howling > DK > Steel > Twin (End PB) > ToD > etc.

    EDIT: Nvm, Ossom has it covered.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ossom View Post
    PB > Snap > Internal Release (This is Key) > Snap > Blood 4 Blood > Demo > Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > ToD (This needs to go up asap) > Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap > Boot Shine > True Strike > (DK Buff will drop here) Demo (Demo will have Twin Snakes buff though) > Dragon Kick > Twin Snap.

    The key to this is the Internal Release, the quicker you start using it the better. By using it there, you are allowing yourself to use Internal Release on every 3rd Demolish (One of your most powerful skills. I believe it also lines up with every other ToD but I'm not exactly sure yet, your other, most powerful skill).
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    Last edited by treuhavik; 12-20-2014 at 12:37 AM.

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    just a little update, managing now to do 515 on 3:50 dummy run.
    Using fracture but only when IR or B4B is up.
    Using Black Truffle and Str pot, thou yet to squize in Str pot in a way that it maximize its value (in opening during b4b and IR).
    I still feel am doing something wrong but 20 more dps then my previous best run is always a +
    TY guys <3
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlotjko View Post
    just a little update, managing now to do 515 on 3:50 dummy run.
    Using fracture but only when IR or B4B is up.
    Using Black Truffle and Str pot, thou yet to squize in Str pot in a way that it maximize its value (in opening during b4b and IR).
    I still feel am doing something wrong but 20 more dps then my previous best run is always a +
    TY guys <3
    Definitely getting closer to the mark. Just keep trying to tighten things up, and be willing to try some slightly different tactics with your rotations. Make sure when you are trying new things to give it a few parses before judging it unless it's just clearly not working. You have to get a pretty good sample size to account for crit fluctuations. ~4 minutes doesn't give the greatest sample size unfortunately. So more quality time with your dummy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zlotjko View Post
    just a little update, managing now to do 515 on 3:50 dummy run.
    Using fracture but only when IR or B4B is up.
    Using Black Truffle and Str pot, thou yet to squize in Str pot in a way that it maximize its value (in opening during b4b and IR).
    I still feel am doing something wrong but 20 more dps then my previous best run is always a +
    TY guys <3
    Unless you were unlucky crits, it is possible you miss some auto attacks... I am ilvl 106 with a 110 soldiery weapon and the DPS of my auto attacks is already 130 on a 4 minutes fight. My crit rate was 20 % on auto attacks.
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    Love!

    I honestly love you guys in this thread but the lot of you currently question my sanity with constant new updates!! So i had a few questions.

    First off: So with the new weights the crafted set pieces are actually BiS currently with of course perfect penta melds?

    Second: Finding a opener is such a pain especially for many situations you have to switch it up. But what is currently the top used opener that is efficient? My opener I frequently use is: PB>Demo>Snap>SNAP>Twin>DK>B4B>Boot>IR>True>Xpot(opt.)>Demo>ToD>Steel>Dk>Howl>Twin>snap.

    I feel i can get more~ with my current gear being at ilvl 116 i feel i can get more than 530-540 dps. Thinking about trying out the one Ossom Possom mentioned :
    PB > Snap > Internal Release (This is Key) > Snap > Blood 4 Blood > Demo > Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > ToD (This needs to go up asap) > Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap > Boot Shine > True Strike > (DK Buff will drop here) Demo (Demo will have Twin Snakes buff though) > Dragon Kick > Twin Snap

    Thanks for any information ^^
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    Arzela Adrem
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    Quote Originally Posted by KaisaaVonFaust View Post

    Second: Finding a opener is such a pain especially for many situations you have to switch it up. But what is currently the top used opener that is efficient? My opener I frequently use is: PB>Demo>Snap>SNAP>Twin>DK>B4B>Boot>IR>True>Xpot(opt.)>Demo>ToD>Steel>Dk>Howl>Twin>snap.

    I feel i can get more~ with my current gear being at ilvl 116 i feel i can get more than 530-540 dps. Thinking about trying out the one Ossom Possom mentioned :
    PB > Snap > Internal Release (This is Key) > Snap > Blood 4 Blood > Demo > Dragon Kick > Twin Snakes > ToD (This needs to go up asap) > Boot Shine > True Strike > Snap > Boot Shine > True Strike > (DK Buff will drop here) Demo (Demo will have Twin Snakes buff though) > Dragon Kick > Twin Snap

    Thanks for any information ^^
    I use same opener as you wrote up there.But now i am thinking about Ossom's opener also because it sounds good and it might be better than my usual opener.Can we get more information/tests about that ?
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