The Monk Temple Reborn

[Riyos]

Openers: typically, you are at the start of the fight. How do you begin the fight while maximizing your damage.

• With PB
  Demo -> BfB -> Snap -> IR -> Snap -> Howl -> DK -> Steel -> Snap (PB is off, no stance) -> DK -> Twin -> ToD -> Fracture (optional) -> Demo -> Boot -> True -> Snap...
  Demo -> BfB -> Snap -> IR -> Snap -> Howl -> DK -> Steel -> Twin (PB is off, no stance) -> Boot -> True -> Demo -> ToD -> Fracture (optional) -> DK -> Twin -> Snap...
  
• Without PB: ToD -> BfB -> DK -> IR -> Twin -> Howl -> Demo -> Steel -> DK -> Twin -> Snap -> Boot -> True -> Snap...

I wanted to ask something about this. Firstly, with PB, wouldn't it be better to use Boot-Twin-B4B-Snap(and even DK after this)-PB-Snap-IR-Demo ecc.? In this way you have Twin(and DK if you want) with B4B and IR, and Demo is affected by CDs and GL.

In the second case, wouldn't it be better to use CDs and offGCDs at leaster after twin or first GL?

[whiskeybravo]

I wanted to ask something about this. Firstly, with PB, wouldn't it be better to use Boot-Twin-B4B-Snap(and even DK after this)-PB-Snap-IR-Demo ecc.? In this way you have Twin(and DK if you want) with B4B and IR, and Demo is affected by CDs and GL.

In the second case, wouldn't it be better to use CDs and offGCDs at leaster after twin or first GL?

No.. You need the skill speed boost from greased lightning to perform 5 moves under PB. At most you could use DK or Twin first but not both.

[Lewena]

I wanted to ask something about this. Firstly, with PB, wouldn't it be better to use Boot-Twin-B4B-Snap(and even DK after this)-PB-Snap-IR-Demo ecc.? In this way you have Twin(and DK if you want) with B4B and IR, and Demo is affected by CDs and GL.

In the second case, wouldn't it be better to use CDs and offGCDs at leaster after twin or first GL?

Did not do the maths but I don't feel that it is more interesting since you are delaying GL3 which is not a good idea. Moreover, your Demo is used too late so either it gets clipped quite heavily or if you delay your refresh the next demolish will not get buffed by BfB and IR. Maybe if you are doing something like this, it may be better (I don't know but still don't think so) as normally ToD and Demo get the buffs of BfB and IR
Boot/DK-Twin-Snap-DK-PB-Demo-BfB-Snap-IR-Boot/True-Boot/True-Snap-PB off-Boot/DK-Twin-ToD-Demo

For your second question : http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...=1#post2291802

[Reisho]

Here's how I open as monk DK>TS>SP>DK now that I have debuff on boss and my TS buff that's when I put my burst DPS IR+BFB+PB for SP>SP>DEMO>true S.>true S.>TOD and back to my regular rotations of DK>TS>SP BS>True>DEMO. I play on ps3-4 and I don't parse but people tell me I have pretty good numbers on the parser. Hope this might help others and any insight to my rotation is welcome. Thanks my brother monks.

[Sleigh]

Here's how I open as monk DK>TS>SP>DK now that I have debuff on boss and my TS buff that's when I put my burst DPS IR+BFB+PB for SP>SP>DEMO>true S.>true S.>TOD and back to my regular rotations of DK>TS>SP BS>True>DEMO. I play on ps3-4 and I don't parse but people tell me I have pretty good numbers on the parser. Hope this might help others and any insight to my rotation is welcome. Thanks my brother monks.

In your opener you're doing Snap X 3 > Demolish, big no no. Regardless, there's too much delay on GL3 with this opener, and seemingly too much combining non-GCDs. PB isn't worth throttling for this purpose, what you can do in PB while still setting up GL3 isn't so spectacular that you should spend time mildly strengthening it.

[Kerikeron]

Should Tackle > PB > Demo > BfB > Snap > IR > Snap > Howl > DK > Steel > Twin > ToD > Boot > True > Demo. Then go into your flank and alternate. If you're going to use a potion, replace Howl with it and push Howl and Steel back by one off-GCD each.

Move ToD to the end if your GCD's are delayed at all after the second Snap or if your SkSpd is extremely low. Depending on your teams comp you can ask for your SCH to use Selene's SkSpd+ skill at the start instead of its standard SpSpd+ to make up for the lack of SkSpd. Anyone using HA Claws should have enough SkSpd by quite a bit.

[Than]

Why not Snap > Snap > DK/Twin > Twin/DK > Demo? It works and your demolish benefits from all your buffs except x-potion. You can't get in 5 GCDs if you pop the pot because of animation delay/lock.

[ZzPixie]

Why not Snap > Snap > DK/Twin > Twin/DK > Demo? It works and your demolish benefits from all your buffs except x-potion. You can't in 5 GCDs if you pop the pot because of animation lock.

Should Tackle > PB > Demo > BfB > Snap > IR > Snap > Howl > DK > Steel > Twin > ToD > Boot > True > Demo. Then go into your flank and alternate. If you're going to use a potion, replace Howl with it and push Howl and Steel back by one off-GCD each.

Move ToD to the end if your GCD's are delayed at all after the second Snap or if your SkSpd is extremely low. Depending on your teams comp you can ask for your SCH to use Selene's SkSpd+ skill at the start instead of its standard SpSpd+ to make up for the lack of SkSpd. Anyone using HA Claws should have enough SkSpd by quite a bit.

.......really?!

[ziddyt]

Why not Snap > Snap > DK/Twin > Twin/DK > Demo? It works and your demolish benefits from all your buffs except x-potion. You can't get in 5 GCDs if you pop the pot because of animation delay/lock.

Yes you can

[Kerikeron]

.......really?!

Then what do you suggest? I'm interested in learning new rotations.