The Monk Temple Reborn

[Moogy]

Need some big advice from you guys.

I've been trying to practice my rotations and openers after getting my Animus but it seems like I can't really break 400dps at all.

First opener would be: (From the OP itself)
PB > Demo > BfB > Snap > IR -> Snap > Howl > DK > Steel > Snap (PB is off, no stance) > DK > Twin > ToD > Demo > Boot > True > Snap..

Second opener would be:
ToD > PB > Demolish > Snap Punch > Snap > Twin Snakes > Dragon Kick > BfB > Bootshine > IR > True > POTS > Snap > Howl > DK > Steel > Twin > Demolish > Bootshine > ToD > True > Snap

I've tried both and be sustained on them for 5-6 mins tops, both just max at 355-362. I really can't go beyond that at all.
I reapply buffs and DoTs just as they go off and such (2-1 sec before they drop)

Here's my equipment when I tried these rotations. http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/MWQT
I am also using a controller even on PC. I don't user the diamond targer lock on if that says anything at all.

Really need advice, thank you!

[Sleigh]

You might be missing auto attacks or your positional bonuses, 360ish is definitely a bit low even with i90. I'd recommend you make sure you're hitting the proper side for each attack, and try to face your target as often as possible, see if those things fix your numbers. It might also be your parser; not all of them give equal numbers.

[Moogy]

You might be missing auto attacks or your positional bonuses, 360ish is definitely a bit low even with i90. I'd recommend you make sure you're hitting the proper side for each attack, and try to face your target as often as possible, see if those things fix your numbers. It might also be your parser; not all of them give equal numbers.

As I said earlier, I am sure I am not missing or dropping the positional bonuses on the dummy, maybe once or twice on a Demolisher but the rest I am able reapply it at 3-0 seconds.

If there is something I am not sure is if I am missing auto attacks which I have no idea how to know. Also what do you mean try to face your target as often as possible?

[Kanti]

Missing auto attacks tends to be a problem with people who use legacy controls (me, for example) because the way you move around mobs even from back to flank puts you out of the narrow window for hitting auto attacks often. A way to avoid that is to just lock on to the mob while you're strafing so are always facing the mob while moving. It's less of an issue with the tank controls but it's possible that's where you're losing hits.

[Moogy]

Missing auto attacks tends to be a problem with people who use legacy controls (me, for example) because the way you move around mobs even from back to flank puts you out of the narrow window for hitting auto attacks often. A way to avoid that is to just lock on to the mob while you're strafing so are always facing the mob while moving. It's less of an issue with the tank controls but it's possible that's where you're losing hits.

YEP. I was an idiot. God, I can't believe it was that, using the controller I pressed the R3 for the Diamond reticule, and then tried the openings, from 360 it shot up to 410 sustained. So it really was that.

[LionKing]

A question I want to ask is the purpose of using PB as the starting skill? It can be used off GCD, would it not make more sense using it between two skills? As for me:

ToD-PB-Demolish-Dragon Kick-Twin Snakes-Snap Punch-Snap Punch (The effect of PB run off), then proceed with normal rotation.

Does it make difference in term of DPS if the rotation is executed this way? Which one is more for optimal DPS?

Thanks.

[Lewena]

The order of interest will always be GL first, then DK debuff and finally Twin buff. Indeed, (counting for fist of fire here)
- first buff/debuff: one stack of GL grants 1.14*1.05 = 1.1970 or DK debuff 1.05*1.1 = 1.1550 or Twin buff 1.15 => go for GL
- second buff/debuff: so one stack of GL (+ second stack of GL: 1.23*1.1 = 1.3530) or (+ DK debuff: 1.14*1.05*1.1 = 1.3167) or (+ Twin buff: 1.24*1.05 = 1.3020) => go for GL2
- third buff/debuff: GL2 (+ third stack of GL: 1.32*1.15 = 1.5180) or (+ DK debuff: 1.23*1.1*1.1 = 1.4883) or (+ Twin buff: 1.33*1.1 = 1.4630) => go for GL3
- fourth buff/debuff: GL3 (+ DK debuff: 1.32*1.15*1.1 = 1.6698) or (+ Twin buff: 1.42*1.15 = 1.6330) => go for DK
- at last go for Twin 1.7963
Moreover, coeurl strikes (Demolish and Snap) have more potencies (than DK and Twin), so it is better in every way to go first with GL3. On the long run, there is not so much of a difference as long as you go out of PB with GL3 and DK debuff. For short term, it can however be interesting to have a better opener.

The use of ToD before PB may be a good idea. Don't know if it is really worth it as you need to let it run for quite a long time and the proposed opener applies ToD after 7 GCDs.

[Moogy]

YEP. I was an idiot. God, I can't believe it was that, using the controller I pressed the R3 for the Diamond reticule, and then tried the openings, from 360 it shot up to 410 sustained. So it really was that.

Welp scratch that. Looks like my DPS crashed back down to what I usually get even after changing the target settings. Now I am completely lost.

[Butcherboy]

Yeah same here. Moogy but I beat u tho. I stop playing mmo for a long time and now I regretted it. I'm barely hitting over 300dps on dummy. I need to get back to it. But yes lock target helps. Wherever I go drg brd and tank even I lock on. That's something I didn't learn during my days as a mnk. I'm ilvl 91 mnk. I tried watching Mr.happies video in mnk but he just talk to much. I think u guys need to make a video in rotation so I can get back to it.

[Kitfox]

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Personally I open with Tackle > ToD > PB > opener because if I go Tackle > PB, I feel like I'm wasting a GCD there. But in all honesty it's ONE GCD among many for a 10 min battle, won't make a huge difference either way.

Welp scratch that. Looks like my DPS crashed back down to what I usually get even after changing the target settings. Now I am completely lost.

350-360 DPS is perfectly normal for i90 (weapon included), it's not low. You're not doing anything wrong. Be happy with your gameplay and wait for better gear. If you can have someone feed you TP for a longer burn, you'll get a higher number due to how MNK winds up, but that's it.