The Monk Temple Reborn

[melflomil]

Grease lightning does not effect skill speed. When I say skill speed I mean the actual number under the stat menu. If you had 512 ss it will remain the same number under the effecta of grease lightning 3. It only effects recast timers and gives you a damage buff to all attacks. Now Selene's buff, fey glow effects skill speed the stat. If you had 512 skill speed it will jump to 667 and that will increase dot damagedamage on top of the bonus damage because we have more skill speed.

Samething with internal release, only effects the rate and not the stat number

[juniglee]

Grease lightning does not effect skill speed. When I say skill speed I mean the actual number under the stat menu. If you had 512 ss it will remain the same number under the effecta of grease lightning 3. It only effects recast timers and gives you a damage buff to all attacks. Now Selene's buff, fey glow effects skill speed the stat. If you had 512 skill speed it will jump to 667 and that will increase dot damagedamage on top of the bonus damage because we have more skill speed.

Samething with internal release, only effects the rate and not the stat number

Thanks for the clarification! I actually only just picked up Monk last week, so I am looking to learn and know more as well XD

[Craiger]

Tornado Kick going from 500 potency to 330 is a huge change... I guess 500 was a little too high on MNK, but 330 is kinda low IMO.

330 is high for MNK, yes, but Demolish has higher total damage, and you're only gonna use Tornado Kick at very few times in some fights... Not the best attack. Edit: And I know it's oGCD, so it's still nice damage, but you wouldn't use it very often

Now I wonder how much potency Forbidden Chakra have...

Can't complain about the nerf on Elixir Field though... 220 potency AoE at 30 sec CD, is strong enough.

I'm getting a little annoyed though that we are getting a lot of info about abilities for most jobs, but so far no more info on Meditation :/ How is that not the first thing you check when playing MNK at E3....

EDIT: This is highly speculative, but as someone mentioned in Reddit comments, Purification's tooltip states that you need 5 Chakra stacks, but it doesn't say that you will lose those Chakra stacks... Tornado Kick specifically says that you will lose your GL stacks when used. I know, that doesn't prove anything, but still...

[w153m4n]

EDIT: This is highly speculative, but as someone mentioned in Reddit comments, Purification's tooltip states that you need 5 Chakra stacks, but it doesn't say that you will lose those Chakra stacks... Tornado Kick specifically says that you will lose your GL stacks when used. I know, that doesn't prove anything, but still...

Yes, I was just about to post it too. If it's true, that's good although you basically choose whether to keep your 5 stacks and be able to get 300TP every 2 minutes (awesome) or spend the Chakra stacks on Forbidden Chakra.

[Chokee]

ok so i know the perfect time to use tornado kick is just before the boss jumps for a long period of time.

but what do you guys think we should do in this situation:

boss soon jumps up but its short enough that we won't lose gl if we use form shift. do we:

1.) use tornado anyway and then meditate some chakra while boss is out of reach
2.) use tornado and then form shift to snap/demo to get gl1, then maybe meditate once
3.) use tornado and then pb back to gl3 + buffs (only if pb is available, if not ignore this choice)
4.) use form shift once or twice to snap/demo the boss when he comes back, preserving our gl3
5.) something else i haven't thought about

[Eardstapa]

As I said earlier, I wasn't getting too much into speculation on the GL thing... Because I know it doesn't directly effect SS, but it does effect GCD. It was merely a thought... Chokee, we'll see when people start hitting 60 and running end game dungeons/content what the best options are.

[Chokee]

As I said earlier, I wasn't getting too much into speculation on the GL thing... Because I know it doesn't directly effect SS, but it does effect GCD. It was merely a thought... Chokee, we'll see when people start hitting 60 and running end game dungeons/content what the best options are.

yeah just putting the question here maybe a theorycrafter can look into it while maint

[Ossom]

If Purification doesn't blow our Chakra stacks, then that means we can wait till we have 700 TP, use Purification and then use Forbidden Chakra, and then we will have probably no TP problems the rest of the fight, between Invigorate and Purification I doubt you would need to use Purification more than once. So that's pretty legit.

I think that if were talking about a Jump that is roughly 2-3 Seconds long, then you would only want to blow Tornado Kick if you just put up your DoTs as reapplying this while not in GL3 seems weak. So if ToD and Demo are up for more than 8 seconds, and the boss is about to jump. Blow GL3 with Tornado Kick and then stance dance until the boss comes back down, if you have time after getting to Couerl Stance then start stacking some more Chakra. If there are fights where the the boss jumps though, TP is usually never gonna be an issue.

[Akashiya]

If Purification doesn't blow our Chakra stacks, then that means we can wait till we have 700 TP, use Purification and then use Forbidden Chakra, and then we will have probably no TP problems the rest of the fight, between Invigorate and Purification I doubt you would need to use Purification more than once. So that's pretty legit.

I think that if were talking about a Jump that is roughly 2-3 Seconds long, then you would only want to blow Tornado Kick if you just put up your DoTs as reapplying this while not in GL3 seems weak. So if ToD and Demo are up for more than 8 seconds, and the boss is about to jump. Blow GL3 with Tornado Kick and then stance dance until the boss comes back down, if you have time after getting to Couerl Stance then start stacking some more Chakra. If there are fights where the the boss jumps though, TP is usually never gonna be an issue.

I'd expect it to eat the stacks if it didn't we get into the pre ninja nerf tp situation that can be even more compound if you have a ninja in the group

[Eardstapa]

According to what a few people have seen, Chakra is a GCD. As such, it would not surprise me if Purification did not eat the stacks, so that we can put both Purification AND Forbidden Chakra on CD, but at the same time I would not be surprised if Purification ate the stacks.