Crafting Smart - Elemental Hours and Moon Phases

[Fuzball]

Hi peoples! I made this list awhile ago from the books located in the conjurer's guild... So far it works out great! If I notice that a local leve is too hard, I'll wait until the correct hour / day and it makes a very noticable difference

I'm curious about the effects of astral / umbral phases on synthesis... FFXI had a similar system of including light/dark polarities along-side the various elemental days, so maybe the astral / umbral phase only effects astral / umbral things? It seems that the success rate of synthesis isn't effected by either astral / umbral phases, so I think it's a basic 'element X is strong during this moon' kinda thing, rather than 'element X is strong during the astral phase and weak during umbral.'

Anywho, I plan on getting some numbers posted here sometime in the near future along with checking out if I can find anything on crafting directions ( I noticed that the book mentions how the heavens guides the elements and also how the elemental-colored stars are aligned nicely to the cardinal directions... ). Let me know how it works out for you guys ^^

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Creation of the Elements ( '->' = 'creates' )
Lightning -> Fire -> Earth -> Ice -> Water -> Wind -> Lightning

"The Three Conquests"
( '>' = 'strong against' )
Earth > Lightning
Water > Earth
Lightning > Water

"The Three Submissions"
Wind > Fire
Fire > Ice
Ice > Wind

Reading the Time:
The clock located next to the images of the moon tells you the time in month/day format. Each moon lasts 32 days, which is considered one month. The twelve moons make up the 12 months, and each has four cycles per month. Each phase of the moon lasts eight days, giving us the four moon phases observed each month. ie: 11/28 would be the 11th moon at 50% ( the fourth cycle lasts from day 24 to day 32, make it 50% on day 28 )

Phases of the Moon and Related Elements
(ex: 4.7 = 4th Astral, 7th Moon. 1 Yr = 12 moons. Book counts each pole [astral/umbral] as a seperate moon. )
1.1 : Astral ~ Ice
1.2 : Umbral ~ Ice
2.3 : Astral ~ Water
2.4 : Umbral ~ Water
3.5 : Astral ~ Wind
3.6 : Umbral ~ Wind
4.7 : Astral ~ Lightning
4.8 : Umbral ~ Lightning
5.9 : Astral ~ Fire
5.10: Umbral ~ Fire
6.11: Astral ~ Earth
6.12: Umbral ~ Earth

Elemental Hours:
( I'm not 100% on the degrading effects, but the hours certainly make the corresponding element easier to work with )
00:00 - 01:00 = +Ice / -Wind
01:00 - 02:00 = +Water / -Earth
02:00 - 03:00 = +Wind / -Fire
03:00 - 04:00 = +Lightning / -Water
04:00 - 05:00 = +Fire / -Ice
05:00 - 06:00 = +Earth / -Lightning

06:00 - 07:00 = +Ice / -Wind
07:00 - 08:00 = +Water / -Earth
08:00 - 09:00 = +Wind / -Fire
09:00 - 10:00 = +Lightning / -Water
10:00 - 11:00 = +Fire / -Ice
11:00 - 12:00 = +Earth / -Lightning

12:00 - 13:00 = +Ice / -Wind
13:00 - 14:00 = +Water / -Earth
14:00 - 15:00 = +Wind / -Fire
15:00 - 16:00 = +Lightning / -Water
16:00 - 17:00 = +Fire / -Ice
17:00 - 18:00 = +Earth / -Lightning

18:00 - 19:00 = +Ice / -Wind
19:00 - 20:00 = +Water / -Earth
20:00 - 21:00 = +Wind / -Fire
21:00 - 22:00 = +Lightning / -Water
22:00 - 23:00 = +Fire / -Ice
23:00 - 00:00 = +Earth / -Lightning

[MHB3000]

Hey.. I was wondering if it would be okay to "copy" this into my LS's forums.. I would give you full credit of course.. if not.. i would just direct them here to read it.. good stuff btw

[Fuzball]

Go for it

Technically I copied it from the in-game book, just left out all the moogle-speak ^^'

A curious note is that the elemental hour that is the same element as the current moon seems to do whacky stuff like all-white synths or instant destabilizing of the element where it then almost always succeeds when you use bold synthesis :3

[TirionCrey]

As much as I'm appreciating your work on this(and I heard of this from other people as well) I'm not willing to believe this at all. One reason...this just seems WAY over the top. Second...each hour of the day is way too short to actually get more than 1-2 crafts done in it...so what are people supposed to do who want to HQ something...do 2 crafts every 20min?

Plus the only people I know who are like fiercly defending this whole superstitious stuff are people who don't even have a R50 craft and actually tried HQing stuff yet...in your case even worse, since you're highest craft is R19. This is no attack against you, but after crafting soooooooo much in XIV already, I can tell that having a few crafts below 20 doesn't make you a valid resource for crafting effects in any kind of way. Getting a craft to 20 literally takes 1-2 days of grinding it if you really want to, so your "tests" are subjective at best, but not nearly valid enough to actually give them any kind of "proof".

Plus everybody who brings up this whole elemental calendar stuff for crafting resort to the books In-Game to proof it. But sorry...the books are in the Conjurers, Thaumaturges and Arcanists Guild...they are casters who USE elemental spells, so there is no reason why this should apply to crafting at all. This could merely be a "tutorial" for caster classes to know which element to use against what element based mob.

Again, as much as I appreciate the work people put into this. Don't make up stuff or go with it unless it's really tested and confirmed in any way or we will have stupid stuff like the "crafting compass" back in this game that DO NOTHING, but people just go with it since it doesn't hurt to do it...

[jwang]

As above stated, unless you can link proof, this is no way believable. Show parse logs, have tool used, gear worn, and synth used as proof. I'd expect at least 100 synths done at a specific hour/moon combo before believing it as any sort of fact. More would be better.

[Fuzball]

As much as I'm appreciating your work on this(and I heard of this from other people as well) I'm not willing to believe this at all. One reason...this just seems WAY over the top. Second...each hour of the day is way too short to actually get more than 1-2 crafts done in it...so what are people supposed to do who want to HQ something...do 2 crafts every 20min?

Plus the only people I know who are like fiercly defending this whole superstitious stuff are people who don't even have a R50 craft and actually tried HQing stuff yet...in your case even worse, since you're highest craft is R19. This is no attack against you, but after crafting soooooooo much in XIV already, I can tell that having a few crafts below 20 doesn't make you a valid resource for crafting effects in any kind of way. Getting a craft to 20 literally takes 1-2 days of grinding it if you really want to, so your "tests" are subjective at best, but not nearly valid enough to actually give them any kind of "proof".

Plus everybody who brings up this whole elemental calendar stuff for crafting resort to the books In-Game to proof it. But sorry...the books are in the Conjurers, Thaumaturges and Arcanists Guild...they are casters who USE elemental spells, so there is no reason why this should apply to crafting at all. This could merely be a "tutorial" for caster classes to know which element to use against what element based mob.

Again, as much as I appreciate the work people put into this. Don't make up stuff or go with it unless it's really tested and confirmed in any way or we will have stupid stuff like the "crafting compass" back in this game that DO NOTHING, but people just go with it since it doesn't hurt to do it...

Sorry, just thought I'd put it out there as a resource

[Shyd]

Sorry, just thought I'd put it out there as a resource

No!

Thank youz Fuzball for compiling this information ^.^;;

[Mikita]

Sorry, just thought I'd put it out there as a resource

Fuzball,

Thank you for compiling this information and posting it.

Some of us appreciate your effort. ^^

[Catapult]

Agreed. Having this information handy is a good thing. I've even known some R50 crafters to swear by it.

And even if it isn't mechanically correct, what you have at least done is collate the information from the mages' guilds so that people may be able to make sense of it in other contexts as well.

[Fuzball]

Awww, thanks guys <3 made my day ^^