There should definitely be a grind, but a measured one. I got all of mine after working through it for a few weeks. Little by little. I remember starting out I was in central thanalan. I was just seeing how it works. I spent two hours there, and didn't get anything. So I moved on with my daily routine. Then next day I was in one of the beastman areas, because I was working on the new reputation, and once i was done I'm like hey lets try grinding for a atma. I got one in a hour or so. So I was pretty happy.Eventually I came back to central thanalan probably around 8/12. It took another three hours, and 4 episodes of walking dead on netflix, before I got it. Once I did I was like "jesus...." and switched areas. I forget which I went to, but I got a atma on my first FATE. So Even though I got screwed on one, I got positive re-enforcement on that next one. It re-enforced my faith I would get it done, and partially erased that hopelessness feeling. This ping ponging back and forth between good and bad luck made for a decent grind experience. The unfortunate thing is, not everyone gets that kind of middle ground experience. I'm sure most people do. Few people get lucky and get done in 12 hrs. And a few people like my fiancee gets stuck on one, or many, atma that take 30 hours to obtain. I've been helping her with central thanalan, via playing her char, and together on our opposite days off have been trying to get that atma for 2 weeks now.

So going back to my first sentence, Measured grind. Just like many of the "unlucky" are asking for, some way for the game to reward you if you've done a excessive amount of fates to get the job done. Maybe they should require x number of fates. I think 100 is a good overall average between what players are experiencing. Obviously people don't want there chances of a freebie to go away. Honostly I wouldn't mind, altho I'll admit if was in my fiancee's, and all you unlucky people's boat, I likely would. I just wish the fate grinding portion was tracked, and measured, just like the books are in the next stage. Give us a quest that shows 0/100 on each atma. And once we get to 100 BOOM atma. You could call it atma points. And when you defeat a boss fate you get 5, or you fight a 20 second fate, and get 1 point.