No changes to ATMA?

[SionDurant]

Yeah I've just been watching the achievements from now on to see how many fates I've been doing.

[Slickpig]

I'm at 150 fates in eastern shroud, worst one yet, 3-4 days I've sat down for 2+ hrs but still no drop. I have 6 total, the others were usually 1-3hr drops, only 1 was the 2nd fate I completed and dropped it. I've also bounced around to the other 5 areas I need, completed about 20 fates in each, no drop. Worst game design decision I've seen yet. There needs to be a better way, like max fates, or increased rate drop per completed fate, or do all fates in an area etc. Like I mentioned in another post, if I only needed one, then fine I can deal with it, but 12! come on...

[SionDurant]

I'm at 150 fates in eastern shroud, worst one yet, 3-4 days I've sat down for 2+ hrs but still no drop. I have 6 total, the others were usually 1-3hr drops, only 1 was the 2nd fate I completed and dropped it. I've also bounced around to the other 5 areas I need, completed about 20 fates in each, no drop. Worst game design decision I've seen yet. There needs to be a better way, like max fates, or increased rate drop per completed fate, or do all fates in an area etc. Like I mentioned in another post, if I only needed one, then fine I can deal with it, but 12! come on...

Yeah it's awful.

[Goldhawk]

I don't know how you all feel, but I feel that with such a weapon and how much effort you put in...it should be a lot stronger. This thing has multiple phases and every other weapon you just "go here and kill this" and it's over. You may have to do it multiple times but that's nothing compared to the problems some people have been having.

As for the i115 weapons i haven't done coils yet so i don't really know how difficult it is to obtain.

[SionDurant]

I would say the RNG attached to Atma should be switched to the final stage of Relic. But it should NOT be associated with fates in any way. So I can take my Animus into a Zodiac Trial and test my mettle beneath the eyes of Halone and see if I am worthy of the ultimate Zodiac.

But I would expect the end result of grueling RNG mercilessness to be equal to if not better than a coil weapon.

[Ranzan]

OK do anyone know the drop rate% for these? Cause I hate to say this but it may be a mathematical possibility to NOT get an atma weapon I just checked my achievements and looking at the amount of fates I've done for atma ( over 300) I should have more that 1 atma. That's less than 1%

[Estellios]

Really what would be nice if they would make atma come from something that isn't totally halting our character progress. Give them a chance to drop when you exit a duty after clearing it, make an atma a reward from a random roulette category, something that isn't just FATEs that are otherwise useless since you have to do them on a level 50 job with a Zenith. It wouldn't be as bad if you could just get Atma doing stuff you would normally be doing.

FATEs dropping a tiny amount of mythology would probably be a bit overkill but way less people would complain about it.

[Madruck]

I am with you Duelle, I am waiting for SE to pull their head out of their dark place to stop making bad game designs...only time will tell....

[Velhart]

I am with you Duelle, I am waiting for SE to pull their head out of their dark place to stop making bad game designs...only time will tell....

In all fairness to SE, they do listen when we have a complaint and either address the issue or explain the reasoning behind it. I am not exactly defending them, but the next part of the relic quest was delayed because of the feedback we gave about the Atma quest.

The Dev's in the future just need to know that everyone should be putting the same amount of effort to complete a task. Not one person put less effort and get all 12 in a day while someone who has done a grotesque amount of work in comparison for weeks to only have 7-8 of them. That should never happen.

I may not have much room to talk since I got all my Atma by the second day the patch came out and have Animus now. However I do care about equality and like to know the person next to me didn't put less or more effort into the task I completed also.

[Ikeda]

Dunno what you're all whining about. I have 6/9 atma weapons already I swear you all would of never survived playing a mmo that came before WoW dumbed everything down.