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    velric42's Avatar
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    Kalimar Bloodmoon
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    Famfrit
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    Arcanist Lv 50

    If your new to a dungeon.

    Do what I do, and that is I go and read up on it as much as I can. It gives me a idea of how to run it. I'm sure most of you already do this.

    I come from years of playing Everquest from 1999 days, and those dungeons were very hardcore. It was sure fun being a Monk and pulling using FD.
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    Williem Roosecote
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    As the tank on most of my first time dungeons, I do read up / watch up on dungeons to get a feel for them, but you don't really get the full grasp until you dive right in.

    If it's your first time in the dungeon, feel free to say so and people will understand! Alternatively, if you can't type, just make sure you watch the cinematics all the way through so that people can tell who the new person is.
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    Ilydia Infinitum
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by vanityobscene View Post
    As the tank on most of my first time dungeons, I do read up / watch up on dungeons to get a feel for them, but you don't really get the full grasp until you dive right in.

    If it's your first time in the dungeon, feel free to say so and people will understand! Alternatively, if you can't type, just make sure you watch the cinematics all the way through so that people can tell who the new person is.
    I made a macro that states that I'm new. (I like macros way too much)

    Problem is that most people DON'T seem to understand what "This is my first time here" (autotranslate) means.

    And as a healer, I can't watch the cinematics all the way through since people will die if I do. Not even joking. One guy ran away while I was casting protect (with a macro that states it) (didn't even reach stoneskin, was still doing protect) and of course died. So generally, I skip cutscene and start stoneskin on people then soon as duty starts, I throw protect and hope it hits before anyone can run too far away then stoneskin the last person.

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    Personally, I prefer to learn in the dungeon. I'll ask my friends and FC for important tidbits (pretty much the information of: Dodge a lot, Dodge EVERYTHING, Get close when it does this, etc. Though sometimes it is: Let the party know you are new).

    However, most people are completely unhelpful. Even when the party wipes a few times because they didn't explain anything (each time, we'd get to another stage of the boss, but we'd wipe because I didn't know what to do-I fight with preparations, not reactions).
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    The healer of love and justice! (Or the mad/insane/evil/berserk healer depending on who you talk to).
    I've played healers for so long that I can heal in my sleep literally (People have seen me do it).
    I like to do a bit of everything, but my preference is healing+support (until /that/ happens). FF14 title: Macro Queen

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    Namida Xhula
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    Leviathan
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by vanityobscene View Post
    As the tank on most of my first time dungeons, I do read up / watch up on dungeons to get a feel for them, but you don't really get the full grasp until you dive right in.

    If it's your first time in the dungeon, feel free to say so and people will understand!
    I agree. just tell everyone that you are new to a dungeon and be open to their suggestion/advices.
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    Williem Roosecote
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    Tonberry
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    Arcanist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by ariaandkia View Post
    I made a macro that states that I'm new. (I like macros way too much)

    Problem is that most people DON'T seem to understand what "This is my first time here" (autotranslate) means. And as a healer, I can't watch the cinematics all the way through since people will die if I do. Not even joking. One guy ran away while I was casting protect (with a macro that states it) (didn't even reach stoneskin, was still doing protect) and of course died. So generally, I skip cutscene and start stoneskin on people then soon as duty starts, I throw protect and hope it hits before anyone can run too far away then stoneskin the last person.

    ===

    Personally, I prefer to learn in the dungeon. I'll ask my friends and FC for important tidbits (pretty much the information of: Dodge a lot, Dodge EVERYTHING, Get close when it does this, etc. Though sometimes it is: Let the party know you are new).

    However, most people are completely unhelpful. Even when the party wipes a few times because they didn't explain anything (each time, we'd get to another stage of the boss, but we'd wipe because I didn't know what to do-I fight with preparations, not reactions).
    "Wise men say only fools rush in."

    Honestly, a tank should be checking over his shoulder, and the DDs should be making sure they're with the tank or behind the tank (if they're ranged). If you're not ready, you're not ready. Your enjoyment of the game's important too, and if you need to take extra time to get acclimated to something and people aren't listening to you in the end they're going to be the sore ones. Afterall, you're the backbone.
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    Duvvvv Starflux
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    Behemoth
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by velric42 View Post
    Do what I do, and that is I go and read up on it as much as I can. It gives me a idea of how to run it. I'm sure most of you already do this.

    I come from years of playing Everquest from 1999 days, and those dungeons were very hardcore. It was sure fun being a Monk and pulling using FD.
    I understand your point, but don't expect people to "do what you do" before they enter dungeons. some people just like to wing it. it has something to do with the psychology of learning: some need to experience stuff first hand, others can work from a manual. some like to play their MMORPGs without walkthroughs, others need to know every mechanic before they dare enter character creation.

    and I agree with the other replies, if you're new to the dungeon it would make a big difference when you inform the party that it's your first try. that's also how you'll know when to look for another party who'll be more open to fellow adventurers who are not afraid to face the unknown.
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    Aldoric Firepeak
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    Adamantoise
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    Scholar Lv 60
    I've got to say I did Halatalli HM with my FC when 2.2 came out blind. Hands down THE most fun I've had playing this. Why would I ruin that experience by being carried through it by watching a video? So no thanks. And when I run content blind outside of FC, I tank. Lolz
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    Liquid Moreno
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    Lamia
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    Gladiator Lv 16
    Quote Originally Posted by ariaandkia View Post
    I made a macro that states that I'm new. (I like macros way too much)
    That is an amazing idea. I never thought of that.
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    Edgar Xerxes
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    Zalera
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    Machinist Lv 95
    I don't like to watch videos, because it spoils the surprises in the dungeon, but I still have to watch them because people complain too much if you don't know the dungeon. Also, when I say I am new to a dungeon, people always leave and have to wait for new people, so it kind of sucks being new, period.
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    Raramun Yayamun
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    Zodiark
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    Thaumaturge Lv 41
    My first time in a dungeon I simple state "This is my first time to {Insert dungeon name} please advice me of anything vital when we get to it!"

    This works well and everyone has always been helpful.
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