New System Involving Materia

[stuscott]

Seeing how this new system involving materia was in the same sentence as "additions and adjustments to the Wolves' Den", I think it's pretty likely they're only referring to PVP Materia.

This is exactly what I was going to say - based on the wording, it sounded like this was referring to PvP.

[Astralos]

The actual quote is: "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions and adjustments to the Wolves' Den, as well as a new system involving materia."

The "as well as..." does not mean the materia system refers to the wolves' den. It is referring to Patch 2.25's focus. If it was about the wolves' den, the sentence would have read "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions, ajustments, as well as introducing a new system involving materia to the Wolves' Den."

Edit- Hooray for English degrees. They're useful sometimes.

I agree with your interpretation. If it were a new system involving materia just for PvP, then the sentence is redundant. A new system involving materia for PvP would count as an addition to the Wolves' Den.

Of course, it could also be possible that SE bungled something up in the translation...it wouldn't be the first time.

[Ooshima]

The actual quote is: "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions and adjustments to the Wolves' Den, as well as a new system involving materia."

The "as well as..." does not mean the materia system refers to the wolves' den. It is referring to Patch 2.25's focus. If it was about the wolves' den, the sentence would have read "Patch 2.25 will focus on additions, ajustments, as well as introducing a new system involving materia to the Wolves' Den."

Edit- Hooray for English degrees. They're useful sometimes.

I agree with your interpretation. If it were a new system involving materia just for PvP, then the sentence is redundant. A new system involving materia for PvP would count as an addition to the Wolves' Den.

Of course, it could also be possible that SE bungled something up in the translation...it wouldn't be the first time.

The EN translation on that part is correct.

The JP live letter says:

まずパッチ2.25では、お待たせしているPvPコンテンツ"ウルヴズジェイル"のアップデートや、
マテリア関連のシステムアップデートが行われます。

The particle "や" (ya) means "and" in English, and here it is used to separate "content update to PVP Wolf's Jail (that's what the Japanese call it) and System updates related to Materia. So it would mean: Content updates to Wolf's Den and updates to the Materia system.

[BreyVoreas93]

I would love to see some of these things be the case, but I really just hope it has nothing to do with pvp... Blah!!

[TheRogueX]

@Remus : maybe once your End game gear reaches 100% spiritbond you will have the option to attach a materia. then it resets and you have to spirit bond again to 100 % for another

That is a really really good idea. Would give more reason to grind, and its a repeatable grind where you can actually see a % increase as you go. Though I think they would need to cap it @ 2 materia per item slot.

Either cap it, slow SB down on a non-linear progressive curve for each materia added, straight up make the success chance lower per successive materia, or put in a simple system of diminishing returns after 2 materia per item slot: IE X Material gives 5% bonus, but if it's the 3rd Materia on the item it only gives 3.5% or something (all numbers are just BS and used for effect).

What about materia merging? Like 5 lvl 3 materia to make a lvl 4 of the same kind and so on?

Please, no. ;_; They already took a (welcome) step away from the Korean MMO model when they abolished the "fail an overmeld and it destroys the equipment" - let's keep moving in the same direction.

I think you may have misread, her idea was that you could combine lower-level materia, perhaps via a crafting process, and produce higher-level materia. No gear destruction involved.

Another really cool thing would be if you could combine the effects of two different types of materia into a hybrid materia. Did someone else say that here yet?

[Rikkustrife]

they said in the last live letter that they will be reworking the materia system, so it is not pvp only

[Astralos]

I think you may have misread, her idea was that you could combine lower-level materia, perhaps via a crafting process, and produce higher-level materia. No gear destruction involved.

I'm aware of that. I didn't misread her post.

[Drivont]

its the age of Glamour, so im thinking materia infused grills for da mouth. Time to drop the gilzz

Droppin' dem gilz fo' da grillz!

[Lamentations]

imagine the value T5 material would have....the sheer time to spiritbond the equip with requisite ilvl would be insane.

Can't really see us being able to put material in i100+ gear tbh, they are already strong enough for everything the game can throw at us, now imagine coil2 gears with material. Yeah, no.

Except if SE follows pattern even if they did this they would most likely not enable coil2 gear to be materia melded until after further content had been added and the old nerfed anyway.

This also brings to mind with me anyway what happens to gear you want melded but have already glamoured, I dunno.

[Duuude007]

Think it means tier v materia but idk tbh

They said several times that this addition wouldnt arrive until cap raise, so exp at earliest.