Tank asked BLM to "mark and sleep"? Is this normal?

[Hatsee]

BLM Sleep is an AE past level 36, there is little sense in them marking anything they slept because of this. If it can be slept and is in the pack of mobs it's going to be sleeping.

If he was new you should have probably explained that to him.

[RickmanUK]

In General... I only mark things i Want Dead "Now" i never Worry about CC's Unless we're Locking things out.. And i Much Prefer them Dead then Locked out. (Call me a Cynic.. but IF we Die i Don't Wanna Have too Lock Something out Again.. Much prefer it just Gone so we can go just Go at it... Amdapor Keep Demon Wall used too Irk me so much with Tanks Skipping the Mobs... Now i just think it's silly.)

Other then That SV is the Wake-up call for Tanks and Healers... In general. Before it most things are easy too hold Aggro and Don't tend too hurt that bad.. But those Dragons... Well. I Learned tanking in SV and Don't Care who knows it.

[SummonerSenah]

If people level through Fates, it's possible to be level 50 and not know what you're supposed to do or how your abilities work. You would think most tanks would level through dungeons because of instant queues and tank bonuses, but I imagine there are some people playing WAR because they like axes, or PLD because they like swords, and may not enjoy actually tanking. More on topic, I have done SV runs where there was a WAR and a white mage slept mobs. And it was the whm that numbered which mobs she slept. So I do think it makes more sense for the person who is doing the sleeping to mark which ones are slept.

[Maero]

Well in that point in the story does anyone even still use sleep? Besides fairly certain mobs in Sv are immune to it

[Pyreflye]

Well in that point in the story does anyone even still use sleep? Besides fairly certain mobs in Sv are immune to it

The Dragon Aevis mobs are immune, the rest can be put to sleep.

For those running through SV for the first time/those with average gear, Sleep can easily save your group.
Trash in SV hit like a truck.

When I ran Stone Vigil for the very first time (when everyone else was also leveling up their first job), none of us knew the dungeon.
When we pulled a group and were surprised by Ice Sprites, Sleep sure as hell saved us then.

[Judge_Xero]

Wrong.

I would Tomahawk it first, just to show you that I actually wanted to wake up the mob. Then I would Overpower it.

You get a gold medal for witty responses. TY for making me laugh so hard.

[Akirakogami]

yes it is normal.. if it's a 50> dungeon. tank hate generation is garbage untill they get all their skills. + you can't just overgear bulldoze those dungeons because of level sync.

50< hell no.

[GerMagic]

Not trying to be mean, but I gotta second some people here.

If you want a run to be smooth, give it YOUR best, or it's at leats partly your own fault.

If the tank doesn't communicate / care about marks, hate and so on, you can either do the same (which likely leads to a worse experience) or try to help the group the best YOU can.

That being said generally I'm not marking targets. I got a hotkey for "1" that I use in certain circumstances (for example those hot girls in Haukke HC when it says there's a new player in the group, since it helps when they get killed first etc.).
I've also marked "1" when I was asked to (:P) and when I was new in some dungeons it sometimes happened that a nice DD/Heal marked for me (explaining why each mob was put 1/2/3) which was a great help.

A lot of the DF problems are just people not communicating. Whenever I see someone doing something stupid I'm really angry at them. Not because they messed up, but because they didn't ask the group how to do something (latest example I asked a Bard if he was okay with doing the eggs in Sirius, he said something like "Of course" and then proceeded to kill every egg right after the pull^^). Talking / explaining will more often save you time than it will hurt you.

[Senfei]

I've marked plenty of dungeons as a DRG, usually only when I see the tank isn't marking. I typically would ask if they would like me to mark (and usually insert that if they are on a console, I know it can be difficult to manage the marks w/ a controller). A lot of the time they will say yes, please do... and so I just mark as I would on PLD. Marking doesn't mean you have to initiate, disrupt the flow of combat, or do anything outside of clicking between 1 and 4 button before a fight starts. Yes, a tank marking shaves a bit of time off the dungeon since they are usually the first to approach a group of mobs and can be marking as they initiate, but it's really not a big deal if you are asked to do it as a DPS. Just mark the first mob so the tank can initiate, and then number the rest before you jump in.

[stuscott]

I have the bind1 symbol marcoed into my Sleep skills as both a BLM and WHM for this purpose. Very easy to do.