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    Anyone here ever play lucent heart? It's an asian mmo you can signup to get paired with a random player who becomes your soulmate. You get buffs for emoting ie hugs kiss etc. There's even a server wide message announcing when two players have their first kiss. Anyways you have the option to choose same gender partners. The world didn't end, no four horsemen outside and no puppies were hurt. I do agree with what others have said, just have marriage be for everyone or don't allow it all.
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    I'll have to jump in with a different fact. The fact being, stuff like same-sex couples and marriages already exist for a long time, they're present and they can't be ignored. Really, they can't. You have them everywhere politics, pop-culture, media, art, science.... you name it, in just about any aspect of modern society. A thing like that won't just vanish, nor can it be, heaven forbid, forcefully eradicated.

    Whether it's good or bad from the genetic/medical/existential point of view doesn't really matter here, I'd dare to say, since it could be easily said the human race, from a genetic mutation standpoint, evolved into something that allows those mutations to exist and function without penalties. Gay people can still opt to have offspring if they so chose. From that point of view, the human race has a secure future, until we overpopulate the planet even more.

    Then there's couples straight or gay that don't produce offspring, also sharing the planet and enjoying the same rights as other individuals. Or not, depending where you live, but it's certainly moving towards that at a slow pace. And this is the sociological aspect of it. People wanting to transfer that part of their reality into a game is just a natural extension of their real lives. They are a big part of modern society, which for the most part revolves around sex and hormones anyway. I could elaborate if needed, but I'll stop here before I stray too far in one post.

    The main thing here is not whether you and I think what's right or wrong, it's whether SE thinks a thing like including same-sex marriages will raise their $$$ or diminish it, versus general company image. If they figure the tolerance towards the subject will be satisfactory (the people opposing it are lower than the ones supporting) and the number of bonus points and new players they'll get is worth it (new players come in bigger numbers than the people opposing this) they'll make a decision with less brain strain.

    Frankly, the Japanese aren't exactly 'strangers to danger' either, when it comes to this particular topic. Much like some other things today, the topic of homosexuality has become a touchy one (hell, there's still prejudice towards people with tattoos in most parts of the world) but they do have a nice history of it: link
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    It really astounds me that some people can be so certain of their fabricated "Scientific evidence" while refuting the basis of most science their entire ideas are founded on. Not only this, but considers themselves intellectual enlightened while truly just blinding themselves with a self-righteous light.

    Instead of just spewing Nonsense, I'm going to address a point brought up by Chezen.

    At the same time, no one (this isn't American thought) has the right to cause disorder in a society that would negatively affect it. What I mean by that is, even if it wouldn't be a big deal in your world, if it pulls down society at large, it should be done without.
    Well darn. America was founded by liberating itself from Britain, You must really hate it then, since it goes far against your personal beliefs.

    As the intelligent non close minded person you are, I'd like you to just sit back and really read what you just wrote. That's the scary kind of sentence that people fear when they think of an idea like Communism. "It's not like the rest of us, we don't like the idea of it, but it makes us uncomfortable: GET RID OF IT."

    I really don't even understand why this is a hot-topic issue. All of the responses about Daddy telling you it's bad, or how offensive it is to you are just unjustified viewpoints. Everyone is entitled to your opinion, But I ask you to do me three things.

    1. Put yourself in their shoes. Do unto others as you want done onto you.

    2. Sit back and think "Why does this anger me, or make me uncomfortable?!"

    3. Never say "I can't make a difference" Cause it starts with one person. Look back at our society, We've been through this with race differences, sex differences, and they all end in equality eventually. Make the difference and start with yourself.




    P.S- Give me my goddamn Summoner before you let ANYONE get married D:
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    Last edited by Quatre; 07-15-2011 at 02:48 PM. Reason: Spelling, I'm not perfect D:

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    i think it would be cool to be able to get married in xiv i never did get married in 11 but i hear it was cool. expensive but cool. i do remember it being super crazy expensive to do it.
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    Yeah, basically, I just want a tux.
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    I really don't see how people have a problem with the "I can't marry my own gender!" This is a game where the lore involves men+women...not women+women. Sorry, but if you want same sex marriages, come back to reality and go to Cali.
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    I really don't see how people have a problem with the "I can't marry my own gender!" This is a game where the lore involves men+women...not women+women. Sorry, but if you want same sex marriages, come back to reality and go to Cali.
    There's actually a number of NPCs in game that will mention their love/passion for another same-sex NPC, and a bunch of NPCs who will flirt with you regardless of your sex, so the lore actually supports pretty much every option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuinn View Post
    There's actually a number of NPCs in game that will mention their love/passion for another same-sex NPC, and a bunch of NPCs who will flirt with you regardless of your sex, so the lore actually supports pretty much every option.
    Exactly this. So same sex marrage in-game would be totally ok according to lore. My Miqo'te path partner always wants to sleep with me >.>. I really cant see how people can get so angry over this. Just don't go to any weddings!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    As I said before, since it is so controversial and SE will end up offending SOMEONE with it's implementation, it may as well just not be put into the game.
    SE has people offended simply by exsisting... A few more wont hurt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leenk View Post
    Actually, i almost agree with closing this thread. The topic has drifted from allowing it in game to "what makes you gay" far too many times.
    Stay on topic or close it altogether
    Requests to close post are considered off topic...
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    Last edited by Reika; 07-16-2011 at 02:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    just don't go to any weddings!
    What a selfish thing to say...If your neighbor has a busted sewage line that is leaking out in your yard, what would you say if he said "just don't go outside?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Reika View Post
    SE has people offended simply by exsisting... A few more wont hurt.
    oh..it will be a lot more than a few...
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    Healer strike is ridiculously foolish and accomplishes nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubont View Post
    If your neighbor has a busted sewage line that is leaking out in your yard, what would you say if he said "just don't go outside?"
    Because gay people get married in the backyards of homophobes specifically, right?
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