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  1. #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeak View Post
    There is proof that homosexuality is genetic. Ever seen that episode of Family Guy where Peter is injected with the gay gene and becomes gay? There's your proof
    it is all so clear now! Holy crap, I never thought of it like that before
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  2. #92
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryndael View Post
    I was just being a smartass, I'm not getting into semantics.

    I have never been attracted to a female in my 24 years. I doubt I ever will. I never woke up one day and made any life-altering decision. It's as simple as that.
    True, but I can say the same thing about my taste in music, my taste in women, my taste in religions. It doesn't just change over night and I'm not saying anything is wrong with your choice at all, so please don't take it like that. What I'm saying is that you don't just wake up one day and say "Hey...I want to be gay" or "hey, I hate rap music" or "hey, religion is for the weak!" No...things don't happen like that. Same goes for your choice of attire. You don't just swap from one style to another. You experiment and see what you like better and THEN make your decision. If you're into thick jackets, bluejeans and converse, you won't suddenly go BAM! I'm going to shave my head, wear a tank-top and a speedo with wooden clogs! (as normal attire of course) lol it just doesn't happen..
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    At what point did this thread become a place for this argument. The FFXIV forums arent really a place to be having this debate. The OP was just commenting on whether or not it should be allowed in FFXIV. It doesnt matter whether you agree on a personal RL level.

    That said, there's no reason not to include such an option. In FFXI, i knew several people who played the opposite gender so that they could be married. Why not give them the option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leenk View Post
    At what point did this thread become a place for this argument. The FFXIV forums arent really a place to be having this debate. The OP was just commenting on whether or not it should be allowed in FFXIV. It doesnt matter whether you agree on a personal RL level.

    That said, there's no reason not to include such an option. In FFXI, i knew several people who played the opposite gender so that they could be married. Why not give them the option.
    That's a good point to bring up. What if a guy is playing a female character, and becomes really close friends with another player who is female in real life and on the game? I doubt the guy would want to start a new character just to get married.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeak View Post
    That's a good point to bring up. What if a guy is playing a female character, and becomes really close friends with another player who is female in real life and on the game? I doubt the guy would want to start a new character just to get married.
    the guy shouldn't be playing a female to begin with because that is just creepy



    j/k

    but seriously, since this is such a controversial thing in this day, it would be best (from a personal and business standpoint) for SE to just leave it out and not even touch the subject
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leenk View Post
    At what point did this thread become a place for this argument. The FFXIV forums arent really a place to be having this debate. The OP was just commenting on whether or not it should be allowed in FFXIV. It doesnt matter whether you agree on a personal RL level.
    It started on the first page with people bringing their personal feelings into it. You're right in that people should stick to why they feel it will affect the game itself.

    Will they be forcing you to have a same sex marriage (or get married at all)? No. So therefore will it change gameplay dramatically for anyone? For no reason that I can foresee.
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    Or quite the opposite. There's no reason to exclude something like this when it's not the real world. People have this debate constantly in real life. They dont need to be burdened with it here.
    Either give us the option to marry whomever we wish or dont give us the option to marry at all. For that matter, just include a crafted wedding ring that doesnt affect slot cost and we can handle the weddings ourselves.
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  8. #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leenk View Post
    Or quite the opposite. There's no reason to exclude something like this when it's not the real world. People have this debate constantly in real life. They dont need to be burdened with it here.
    Either give us the option to marry whomever we wish or dont give us the option to marry at all. For that matter, just include a crafted wedding ring that doesnt affect slot cost and we can handle the weddings ourselves.
    which is what I was getting at in the first place. Since people will get butthurt either way, why not just keep the topic of marriage out of FFXIV to begin with? I mean come on...if I sign my life away in the real world, why would I want to do it in a game? But seriously, keeping marriage out of the game completely would be the best option for SE.
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    Maybe it doesn't need to be called marriage or wedding, I mean, it's the 'Starlight celebration', not Christmas. It could be binding of hearts or something like that xD (I'm cheesy) But on a personal level, I feel that's sort of pandering to the people who are unnecessarily offended so I don't much like it. But either way it gets it done and kind of fits in with how they do things right now.

    I also quite like Leenks idea of handling it ourselves. If they gave us lots of functions to make our own events, like supplies, areas, decorations, and then a ring we can craft names onto, we can organise it ourselves ^^. As well as lots of other fun stuff.
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    Straight people thinking that only of the age 16 and above are gay because it's all about sex to them. Jesus that's just perverted way of thinking about anything.

    I knew i was gay way before I even knew what that meant. Haven't you had a crush on any of your classmates when you were 6? Well I have. I had a crush on a boy that played with me during all the breaks between classes. We skipped rope played with he other girls and did exactly what other gay kids do. When he moved to another city I waited him to appear to our favorite spot every morning before the school started for a year. I was 7 at that point.

    Turning this into a discussion about just sex is just degrading. I love my boyfriend because I'm in love with him. I honestly hope he doesn't read these forums because this would probably be horribly disappointing for him to read. Many gay people are under the illusion that RPG players are a bit less judging as the rest of the population as they're already doing something not so socially acceptable as playing a MMO. Obviously there is no escaping ignorance anywhere.

    I'm sure none of you woke up one day and made the "life changing decision" to be straight, asian, black, gay or blue-eyed.

    I honestly don't even care about his genetic business even though it's a proven fact that gays and straights have even physically different sweat. (ew) I don't care.

    Nothing justifies the prejudice going on here and SE certainly shouldn't enforce it because in this day and age you cannot get away with playing ignorant.

    We have to hide in normal life 24/7 and I can tell you it's absolutely exhausting. Don't make us do that especially in a videogame that's supposed to be about fun and playing together with others.
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