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  1. #51
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    I'm pretty sure the gigantic butt thread with all the insane Time Cube-esque font shenanigans and like a billion inline images in the OP that got locked down was locked down because it turned into one huge angry shit-flinging match that slewed completely off topic.
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  2. #52
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    Sadly I think our butt battle is a lost cause here. These JP developers just can't appreciate a round backside. They like their girls with the curvature of a book.

    I recommend checking out Wildstar this summer. The butts in that game are not only round, you can even make them epic in size.
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    If there's one thing I loathe in videogames, it's super exaggerated anatomy, like gigantic boobs on females and gigantic arm muscles on men. One of the reasons I like XIV's visual style is because they keep the anatomy to a decent level.

    So it's not a deal breaker for me, especially since I don't play Miqo'te, but I can definetly see why some people are bothered with it. The difference from before is really quite drastic. And the anatomy was never exaggerated.

    And while it probably sounds both perverted and silly, I really wish males had a little bit more definition of their private area. I'm not talking about 'woa check out the package!', just a hint of this actually being a male, not a female. -.-
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  4. #54
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fluttersnipe View Post
    Why did they change the models at all? Seems to me that if the models were already usable, why devote resources to changing them at all?
    To make the creation process easier, as explained previously by the developers
    (possibly to lower the polygon count too)

    Quote Originally Posted by TeaTimeBear View Post
    Love the topic idea but, I'd be lying if I said I weren't beside myself with worry for the OP..(ninja bans)
    They haven't broken any of the terms of service, there's no worry to be had here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taruranto View Post
    Is it just me or most people interest in this play with a female character, especially cat-girls?
    Arguable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Synra View Post
    Sadly I think our butt battle is a lost cause here. These JP developers just can't appreciate a round backside. They like their girls with the curvature of a book.

    I recommend checking out Wildstar this summer. The butts in that game are not only round, you can even make them epic in size.
    They never said "We don't like the booty", it was simply done to expedite the creative process which it did.



    However a remedy is possible and would require time, quite a bit of it actually.
    A skin-weight mesh deformer would require a fair bit of time investment to create/test and adjust per-race.

    Seeing as it's not worth it's time currently they're not going to bother.

    Strangely enough this is an easy task for interns, I don't know why Square Enix don't utilise this (most companies do) in taking on interns to take on side-projects such as these (unless they do this already for other things).




    So it's not a complete lost cause, but it's just not worth its weight compared to the other things they could be doing right now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Leowilde View Post
    If there's one thing I loathe in videogames, it's super exaggerated anatomy, like gigantic boobs on females and gigantic arm muscles on men. One of the reasons I like XIV's visual style is because they keep the anatomy to a decent level. I really wish males had a little bit more definition of their private area. I'm not talking about 'woa check out the package!', just a hint of this actually being a male, not a female. -.-
    From a "quick efficient design" perspective, what they've done is great.
    From an aesthetic point of view, the anatomy is amazing in FFXIV.

    But the butt (hehe) really does ruin it. I can't think of anyone with a buttocks that flat.

    The reasoning behind the male package, I have no idea except for the VERY low poly design on almost all gear for that particular area, have a quick look again and you'll see the gear only sports a few polygons to that particular area, not leaving much room to "expand" it much.
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    Last edited by Shioban; 04-30-2014 at 06:30 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vejjiegirl View Post

    (image from www.2P.com)
    Why does no one ever point out the fact that the Miqo'te in these comparison pictures aren't standing the same? It says 'same view,' but that couldn't possibly be further from the truth. The posture is different, radically so. That alone is responsible for the vast majority of the difference. Show me two pictures from the same angle, in the same pose, then we can properly compare.

    Though - why does this even matter? Why does this keep being brought up?
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheRogueX View Post
    Show me two pictures from the same angle, in the same pose, then we can properly compare.
    You can't. They radically changed the standing posture of female Miqote and it exasperated the change so much that as another has pointed out, most people bothered by this are indeed female Miqote players. And it keeps getting brought up because we care about how our characters look.
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    Player Gemma's Avatar
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    Who is staring at their ass that much in the game to care?
    Seriously, I'm a woman irl, I also care about my character looking good.
    But I noticed my butt was smaller and went, "Oh, that sucks" *moved on*.

    Mainly cause I'm not staring at my ass 24/7!! lol

    They already gave us an answer why they did it guys, please just accept it >_<.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemma View Post
    Who is staring at their ass that much in the game to care?
    Seriously, I'm a woman irl, I also care about my character looking good.
    But I noticed my butt was smaller and went, "Oh, that sucks" *moved on*.

    Mainly cause I'm not staring at my ass 24/7!! lol

    They already gave us an answer why they did it guys, please just accept it >_<.
    I hate when my hips clip through the sides of my clothes,
    I hate the bald spots in my hair (not related to lower body but giant bald spots is ugly regardless, I care deeply for my characters and having them look like a glitchy mess just urks me.),

    I hate having my legs burst out of my clothes when I do emotes.
    I feel it is related to how the lower body of characters currently are and would love a fix.
    I care about how my character looks and would love to run around this beautiful world without without worry of my leg clipping outside clothes I wear, or pixel's missing from my leg.

    And even if it is not related,
    It still looks wrong to me. oh, and guess what i'm female too, that doesn't mean I should give up or not care.

    It has been a long time since the first response from Takeo Suzuki, i'm just hoping and praying there will be a change in the future or at least options.
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    Last edited by Vejjiegirl; 05-02-2014 at 12:29 PM.

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    It didn't only affect the Miquotes, it affected everyone! Even my hyur use to have a normal looking butt, now it looks awkward and pencilish. Even with the new /changepose emote there's an unnatural arc from her back to her legs.
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    Hey Rae, just wanted to say I definitely commend the revival of this subject at risk to your posting privileges (I imagine they'll roll out suspensions eventually for this topic) and give you my 100% support.
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