How come this game got a mechanic to avoid trash mobs????

[Lord_Zlatan]

I re edit it some . Just last few days on duty roulette , I just want to run the dang thing normal or what not and people like speed run , and most of the time it would be like few other like wtf that. and they leave and then down to lower members. Or get people arguing about what way they want to speed run the stuff.

this bugs the shit out of me. Especially when I'm tanking. I don't need an i75 MNK telling me how to speed run the dungeon when we don't have nearly enough AoE capability to do what he or she wants. Also, if I'm on the phone, have a friend over, watching TV and I'm not entering into Brayflox Warpspeed, the extra 3 minutes it takes to finish the run won't stop the world from spinning. Im sorry if at 4:30 in the morning after going out with friends that Halatali HM takes 21 minutes to finish instead of 18. So annoying

[ispano]

Also, if I'm on the phone, have a friend over, watching TV and I'm not entering into Brayflox Warpspeed

Wait, what? You mean your time is more important than the other 3/7 people in the instance? So much that you can waste their time by being side tracked with other things? This, and only really this, is the problem with DF. People who put their time and/or needs over everyone else.

[Aeora]

I re edit it some . Just last few days on duty roulette , I just want to run the dang thing normal or what not and people like speed run , and most of the time it would be like few other like wtf that. and they leave and then down to lower members. Or get people arguing about what way they want to speed run the stuff.

Ah cool cool, sorry I couldn't follow before.

Sadly this is a world where the impatient breed, the general attitude you'll find in PF and DF is that nobody is willing to help or even consider that they aren't the only person in the party with an intention for the run.
That being said there are a great deal of decent folk that will go the extra mile to make someone else enjoy the game as much as they themselves do...

Just keep your head high, stand strong in your own morals and don't let the grumpy peeps bring you down

[Lord_Zlatan]

Ah cool cool, sorry I couldn't follow before.

Sadly this is a world where the impatient breed, the general attitude you'll find in PF and DF is that nobody is willing to help or even consider that they aren't the only person in the party with an intention for the run.
That being said there are a great deal of decent folk that will go the extra mile to make someone else enjoy the game as much as they themselves do...

Just keep your head high, stand strong in your own morals and don't let the grumpy peeps bring you down

I actually love getting fresh 50s in the DF/PF. It is such a refreshing change of pace (imo) and it is also rewarding to see someone do it the right way and not just overgear-powerstomp everything.

BTW is that the MNK soldiery headpiece?

[Shirai]

Thank you for the clarification indeed, mindful.

I actually love getting fresh 50s in the DF/PF. It is such a refreshing change of pace (imo) and it is also rewarding to see someone do it the right way and not just overgear-powerstomp everything.

I agree, while I have no problems speedrunning some instances it is indeed nice to occasionally have a group of newer/less well geared players in a dungeon and taking it easy.
In the end I'm still playing a game with other people and the newbies tend to be more talkative.

Lately the roulette has been giving me Titan on the trials, I must say I have had a very good time teaching newer players to dance.

[Aeora]

BTW is that the MNK soldiery headpiece?

It is indeed sir.

[Lord_Zlatan]

gotta love the epic fail sac pulls in T1.

anyhow, I would like trash to either be harder or reward level 50 players with something. Perhaps Brayflox Longstop HM give 50 soldiery instead of 45 if every mob was killed. It also only gives 30 myth, but you get 1 myth per mob killed... so locking out the Ochu and his friend, skipping the Coeurls and the Colibris etc end up making up less efficient runs in the end.

Also, id love Merit Points to come back to FF, but I doubt it will happen.

[Vactus]

Trash has never served a purpose other than to slow you down. I prefer skipping trash pulls as they are useless. I'd rather see more things like Coil where trash is almost non-existent than dungeons with all kinds of trash mobs.

[Cap75]

The simple reason, OP? There's no incentive to kill trash mobs. You get nothing from them.

That said, I'm not excusing people using DF right now to run the first two bosses of Brayflox HM then dropping or asking to be kicked. That's not the purpose of DF.

That's a symptom of design issues though. Putting a ridiculous myth requirement to upgrade a weapon is the main cause of this issue. Again though, people who want to speed run for myth would have no issue using the PF to do so.

The other issue is tying huge myth rewards to Roulette. It doesn't have the effect SE wants. It turns into a daily chord that you just want to get over with as soon as possible.

[Aura_Shurifon]

They tried to make trash mob useful to kill when they added some gil to each kill, but I think it's not enough insentive.
As said before, make it stack myth/soldiery for each kill, and give them all at the end of the dunjon, so killing trash will become useful, and doing the dunjon to the end is a necessity.
But it won't stop "pro speed running" when tank takes 3-4 pack of mobs and the team AoE the hell out out them.