Atma Fate System Broken

[C-croft]

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You asked me to put it into words for you. Please, continue to prove me right. Your superiority complex is amusing. Of course everyone else feels they need to be right, but calling yourself a troll and then continue to do so is of your own choosing. Also, I do enjoy how you assume things, but it's ok. Seeing a tough guy on internet forums always makes me smile.

[Worm]

Can you think of many examples where high end quests involved a large number of extremely low rate drops in low level areas that were non-tradable? Usually a quest might have very few... and usually the drop rate is pretty decent, moving you through the low level portion, if there is one. Even farming prayer shawl components in EQ (lower level... but the zone could be a little challenge).. was maybe an hour of farming for siren hair. None of this spending weeks on rng junk. You go in, do your time and move on through.

Even that was soloing, not this zergfest type setup. (Oh and you collected gems and stuff while doing it that made it somewhat nice) - and those weapons lasted MUCH MUCH longer... shawl, too. I hung on to both until PoP... that was a couple of expansions. But please... share some example quests -and rewards- you think are comparable.

I guess Epics would probably be the best comparison. I only know about EQ1 from my brother playing it, but I feel like you're really downplaying how long some things took.

Anyway I'm perfectly happy to say the way in which these items drop is dumb. I have other posts where I say that. The FATE grind is bad, totally, completely. Though none of that is an issue with the drop rate, the disparity in RNG, or RNG itself. The design is bad but countless people are jumping multiple fences and going from that bad design to say 'RNG is bad' and don't tell me they're not because a guy literally going around the forums calling it "bad RNG".

Though lets not get ahead of ourselves with bashing the Atma grind in favor of EQ1. EQ1 had many low drops not necessarily as low as Atma but that's just because they were low spawn too. Particularly, my brother told me it took his Guild Leader a year to get the Vampire Essence for her Enchanter Epic. Since invariably someone else got their Vampire Essence on the first kill this opens up to every critique you made of Atma. Obviously you have to take into account that EQ1 had contested content and long spawn timer mobs. Which are things that if implemented in to this game, people would freak out about in the same fashion they're freaking out about Atma, and then we'd have to hear about how those concepts are fundamentally flawed, and I would still disagree.

As for tangential benefits you do get Seals and progress toward achievements while farming FATEs, it's not amazing but a reasonable comparison to the stuff you were getting while doing your Shawl.

You asked me to put it into words for you. Please, continue to prove me right. Your superiority complex is amusing. Of course everyone else feels they need to be right, but calling yourself a troll and then continue to do so is of your own choosing. Also, I do enjoy how you assume things, but it's ok. Seeing a tough guy on internet forums always makes me smile.

Tough guy? Calling myself a troll? What are you even talking about? You're just babbling at this point.