JENOVA

[JTribal]

look there is a difference between "good" fanservice and "bad" fanservice

"Good" Fanservice: Oblique references, side characters thrown in that give you a chuckle when you notice them, maybe even a few of the MID-bosses NAMES being used, one time events that come and go once maybe twice like the XI and XIII event...

"Bad" Fanservice: Direct shoehorning of characters from previous tittles into the Main Story just because they were popular... along time ago, adding The Big Bad from other games just to scream "HEY! REMEMBER THIS? WASN'T THIS COOL! LOVE MEEEE! LOOOOOVE MEEEE!"

Please explain then how Kingdom Hearts was bad fanservice, since most of the main characters from previous FF games were in it, including Sephiroth. I know the comparison is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure it's the same concept on a much grander scale.

[Vahlnir]

Please explain then how Kingdom Hearts was bad fanservice, since most of the main characters from previous FF games were in it, including Sephiroth. I know the comparison is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure it's the same concept on a much grander scale.

I'm a pretty big fan of the Kingdom Hearts series but it's not everyone's cup of tea. It's also a nightmare for people who are really into lore concerning FF chars.

[Kuwagami]

Please explain then how Kingdom Hearts was bad fanservice, since most of the main characters from previous FF games were in it, including Sephiroth. I know the comparison is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure it's the same concept on a much grander scale.

cmon... KH IS a full fan serv game with SE and disney... It was designed that way, it wouldn't even exist if it wasn't the case. Also, apart from Sephiroth who appears twice as a boss, all FF characters only appears for a few mins and then disappear from the story. They don't even have any sort of importance... Leon, Yuffie, Cloud ? Bah, no importance at all.

[DefendPopPunk]

cmon... KH IS a full fan serv game with SE and disney... It was designed that way, it wouldn't even exist if it wasn't the case. Also, apart from Sephiroth who appears twice as a boss, all FF characters only appears for a few mins and then disappear from the story. They don't even have any sort of importance... Leon, Yuffie, Cloud ? Bah, no importance at all.

Ummm Zack would like to speak with you.

[UBERHAXED]

cmon... KH IS a full fan serv game with SE and disney... It was designed that way, it wouldn't even exist if it wasn't the case. Also, apart from Sephiroth who appears twice as a boss, all FF characters only appears for a few mins and then disappear from the story. They don't even have any sort of importance... Leon, Yuffie, Cloud ? Bah, no importance at all.

Not to get off topic, but that's plainly because the FF characters couldn't change worlds, and the game's story is world based. When ever you had to visit worlds multiple times (e.g. All the worlds in KHII) you the FF characters were again story relevant.

Ummm Zack would like to speak with you.

To be fair, I'm not even sure what how that's relevant seeing as Zack never appear outside of KHBBS (and they could have added something too since both Zack and Cloud were in the coliseum).

[DefendPopPunk]

To be fair, I'm not even sure what how that's relevant seeing as Zack never appear outside of KHBBS (and they could have added something too since both Zack and Cloud were in the coliseum).

It's extremely relevant seeing as how Zack is a character that stuck around for more than a few minutes and impacted the main storyline. Read the quote.

Also how is KHBBS any different than KH? Is it not canon or something? Lol

[JTribal]

cmon... KH IS a full fan serv game with SE and disney... It was designed that way, it wouldn't even exist if it wasn't the case. Also, apart from Sephiroth who appears twice as a boss, all FF characters only appears for a few mins and then disappear from the story. They don't even have any sort of importance... Leon, Yuffie, Cloud ? Bah, no importance at all.

What about auron, he fights with the team in II.

[JTribal]

Wow, it was awesome to wake up and see so many replies to my first thread this morning XD

All in all, I get both sides of the argument, and I will say this. I think it would be an awesome fight/addition to the game, but I definately agree that it would need to be done tastefully and with no direct reference storywise to VII (Heck, even that could probably be done right, since we've already seen instances where different titles take place in the same universe - Final Fatasy VII and X, look it up if you don't beleive me).

NO - We should not add Sephiroth, I think thats going a tad too far.

Regardless of how you feel, I will put money on the fact that if any sort of content like this were added (optional or not), everyone on this thread would still play it and enjoy it like we've enjoyed the rest of the game so far XD

[Kuwagami]

What about auron, he fights with the team in II.

Dunno about that. I was so bored about the protagonists in KH 1 and about the obvious lack of lore-wise reason about that all-star thing that I just stopped when sephiroth came in the arena. I ended the storyline only because I don't like to let a game unfinished. ^^


Anyway, on subject : I wouldn't mind, all in all, a fight with a foe reminding us JENOVA. It would just need 2 things.

An other name. Because JENOVA is just *NO*

Few gimmicks and lore which would automatically ring "OMG it's her !" in our minds. Like, dunno, some fusion with regular monsters to create doped beasts which could ressucitate her at some point. Things like that.

[HeroSamson]

Dunno about that. I was so bored about the protagonists in KH 1 and about the obvious lack of lore-wise reason about that all-star thing that I just stopped when sephiroth came in the arena. I ended the storyline only because I don't like to let a game unfinished. ^^


Anyway, on subject : I wouldn't mind, all in all, a fight with a foe reminding us JENOVA. It would just need 2 things.

An other name. Because JENOVA is just *NO*

Few gimmicks and lore which would automatically ring "OMG it's her !" in our minds. Like, dunno, some fusion with regular monsters to create doped beasts which could ressucitate her at some point. Things like that.

Reason you stopped at sephiroth you couldn't win him.

I thought it was cool as hell sometimes I wish they added more stuff from old games, I would fight some bosses from saga series or secret of mana.