JENOVA

[JTribal]

no more thingies unrelated to the lore just to please the fans please. FFXIII crap was enough.

Careful what you wish for. You do realize this entire game is based on lore from the entire series, not just this title on it's own? If we didn't have things like Primals, Moogles, Chocobos, etc. this wouldn't really be a Final Fantasy game.

[Kuwagami]

Careful what you wish for. You do realize this entire game is based on lore from the entire series, not just this title on it's own? If we didn't have things like Primals, Moogles, Chocobos, etc. this wouldn't really be a Final Fantasy game.

There is a difference between taking names and designs on the series and taking a super villain in one game. Same way that Kefka wouldn't have any sense, nor Chaos, nor Sin....

[Moheeheeko]

Careful what you wish for. You do realize this entire game is based on lore from the entire series, not just this title on it's own? If we didn't have things like Primals, Moogles, Chocobos, etc. this wouldn't really be a Final Fantasy game.

because recurring monsters are TOTALLY the same thing as a critical storyline character right?

/eyeroll

[Pandastirfry]

Careful what you wish for. You do realize this entire game is based on lore from the entire series, not just this title on it's own? If we didn't have things like Primals, Moogles, Chocobos, etc. this wouldn't really be a Final Fantasy game.

these are constants in ALL Final Fantasies... Jenova is only a thing in FFVII..and was the big bad to boot... Turning one games Big Bad into a coil boss, just for fan jollies, not only cheapens the lore of XIV, but the lore of the game you ripped them from.


also, FFVII is overrated. (couple this with all the whining that would follow of "Jenova doesn't look right, the music's not as good, Jenova's attacks are wrong, this fight was better in VII..." rather not want to hear it and don't tell me it wouldn't happen, they could actually force you to play an Emulator version of it within XIV, and people would still say it.)

[Vahlnir]

these are constants in ALL Final Fantasies... Jenova is only a thing in FFVII..and was the big bad to boot... Turning one games Big Bad into a coil boss, just for fan jollies, not only cheapens the lore of XIV, but the lore of the game you ripped them from.


also, FFVII is overrated. (couple this with all the whining that would follow of "Jenove doesn't look right, the musics not as good, Jenova's attacks are wrong, this fight was better in VII..."rather not want to hear it)

When you put it this way I suppose I'm inclined to agree that it might not be the best idea. Also, VII was a great game. Too many spin-offs though, but a couple were pretty decent.

[JTribal]

I'm not sure what all the anger is about, it was simply an idea. If you don't like it, move along to the next thread

As for taking the "big bads" out of previous games, I heard that they are going to be adding the Cloud of Darkness as a boss in one of the upcoming CT expansions, so it's more than likely already a possibility.

[Vahlnir]

I'm not sure what all the anger is about, it was simply an idea. If you don't like it, move along to the next thread

As for taking the "big bads" out of previous games, I heard that they are going to be adding the Cloud of Darkness as a boss in one of the upcoming CT expansions, so it's more than likely already a possibility.

There are pros and cons for every idea. You're more likely to anger people on the forums though lol Just another day on the forums is all...Can't wait for more CT though, especially if Cloud of Darkness is a boss.

[Pandastirfry]

I'm not sure what all the anger is about, it was simply an idea. If you don't like it, move along to the next thread

As for taking the "big bads" out of previous games, I heard that they are going to be adding the Cloud of Darkness as a boss in one of the upcoming CT expansions, so it's more than likely already a possibility.

look there is a difference between "good" fanservice and "bad" fanservice

"Good" Fanservice: Oblique references, side characters thrown in that give you a chuckle when you notice them, maybe even a few of the MID-bosses NAMES being used, one time events that come and go once maybe twice like the XI and XIII event...

"Bad" Fanservice: Direct shoehorning of characters from previous tittles into the Main Story just because they were popular... along time ago, adding The Big Bad from other games just to scream "HEY! REMEMBER THIS? WASN'T THIS COOL! LOVE MEEEE! LOOOOOVE MEEEE!"

Basically, it's kinda like repeating a joke, Clever people can take the joke tweak it a bit and make it their own, the other is just standing around repeating lines from Popular movies until everyone want's to punch you.

[JTribal]

look there is a difference between "good" fanservice and "bad" fanservice

"Good" Fanservice: Oblique references, side characters thrown in that give you a chuckle when you notice them, maybe even a few of the MID-bosses NAMES being used, one time events that come and go once maybe twice like the XI and XIII event...

"Bad" Fanservice: Direct shoehorning of characters from previous tittles into the Main Story just because they were popular... along time ago, adding The Big Bad from other games just to scream "HEY! REMEMBER THIS? WASN'T THIS COOL! LOVE MEEEE! LOOOOOVE MEEEE!"

Please explain then how Kingdom Hearts was bad fanservice, since most of the main characters from previous FF games were in it, including Sephiroth. I know the comparison is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure it's the same concept on a much grander scale.

[Vahlnir]

Please explain then how Kingdom Hearts was bad fanservice, since most of the main characters from previous FF games were in it, including Sephiroth. I know the comparison is a stretch, but I'm pretty sure it's the same concept on a much grander scale.

I'm a pretty big fan of the Kingdom Hearts series but it's not everyone's cup of tea. It's also a nightmare for people who are really into lore concerning FF chars.