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[Akiza]

They might add new summon spells (IV+), but what role would they fill? There's already a lot of overlap between Ifrit & Garuda.

I believe the next 2 primals we're supposed to fight are Shiva & Ramuh. The cheap and easy way out for them might be to just replace Ifrit, Garuda & Titan with Shiva, Ramuh & Leviathan in the same way that the current egi's replaced Carbuncle.

The only reason thy replaced Carbuncle and Topaz with Garuda and Titan was because their elements overlapped not because of their role otherwise we would've never gotten Ifit as a Summon III.

[mayonnegg]

Doomtrain.

[Seaku]

The only reason thy replaced Carbuncle and Topaz with Garuda and Titan was because their elements overlapped not because of their role otherwise we would've never gotten Ifit as a Summon III.

I don't get this line of reasoning, Carbuncle doesn't have an element traditionally. Carbuncle in ffxiv has the exact same set abilities as the summon counterparts just weaker. That is likely the reason why the elements overlap as you say, incidentally since they have the exact same abilities their roles overlap which is why Titan and Garuda supersede Carbuncle.

Anyway it's been confirmed that summon 4 and 5 are leviathan and Ramuh, surprising no-one. I hope Levi is a buffer pet and Ramuh a debuffer, only time will tell.

[Akiza]

I don't get this line of reasoning, Carbuncle doesn't have an element traditionally. Carbuncle in ffxiv has the exact same set abilities as the summon counterparts just weaker. That is likely the reason why the elements overlap as you say, incidentally since they have the exact same abilities their roles overlap which is why Titan and Garuda supersede Carbuncle.
Anyway it's been confirmed that summon 4 and 5 are leviathan and Ramuh, surprising no-one. I hope Levi is a buffer pet and Ramuh a debuffer, only time will tell.

It's not that their roles overlap because Ifit and Garuda are both attacker type pets. Garuda and Titan supersede Carbuncle and Topaz because their attacks overlap.

[Seaku]

It's not that their roles overlap because Ifit and Garuda are both attacker type pets. Garuda and Titan supersede Carbuncle and Topaz because their attacks overlap.

You do realise that is what I just said, right? Your first post said something about their elements overlapping which I doubt has anything to do with why they get superseded. Also Ifirt and garuda are two different types of attacker pets, caster/attack, that could (if ifirt was designed well) fulfill two different roles. We'll see what happens when the pets get rebalanced soon, I'm hoping to use ifirt and titan more.