If your new to a dungeon.

[CodeCass]

[QUOTE=velric42;2049346] I go and read up on it as much as I can. It gives me a idea of how to run it. [QUOTE]

Sometimes I feel like such an idiot haha. This has never occurred to me. There are several dungeons I haven't unlocked yet, not to mention the hard mode dungeons I have unlocked but haven't run yet....and not once have I thought to read up on how it runs to give myself an idea. Thanks so much for this post, if for nothing else than this reminder/good idea! lol

[ColorOfSakura]

Best thing to do if you're new to a dungeon is just to say so. A lot of vet players will be a lot more understanding if you say you're new than if you charge around blindly and never say anything at all (especially if you're a tank or healer.)

[AngelusOfEorzea]

If I am new to a Dungeon then I'll tell people that I am new and just wing it!!! Fun & Excitement!

[Caraway]

Do what I do, and that is I go and read up on it as much as I can. It gives me a idea of how to run it. I'm sure most of you already do this.

I come from years of playing Everquest from 1999 days, and those dungeons were very hardcore. It was sure fun being a Monk and pulling using FD.

No. Absolutely not. That, to me, is tantamount to cheating. I won't look up strats for something until I've bombed on it a few times.

I much prefer to earn my wins.

[vanityobscene]

No. Absolutely not. That, to me, is tantamount to cheating. I won't look up strats for something until I've bombed on it a few times.

I much prefer to earn my wins.

Sadly, if you're a tank and you have this attitude the whole party is going to wail on you, because they need an effective tank to make their run enjoyable. It's hard to play and be the cause of wipes because you don't know how to manage the mobs or have any idea of what to expect until your whole party is being smashed. People tend to quit on you.

[Niwashi]

I don't like to watch videos, because it spoils the surprises in the dungeon, but I still have to watch them because people complain too much if you don't know the dungeon.

Personally, I find the text dungeon guides in most wiki sites to be somewhat of a middle ground. They provide info about the major obstacles and mechanics you'll encounter, but at least your own run is the first time you actually see the place.

It's still a spoiler in the sense that you already know what to do and don't have to learn it the hard way, but it doesn't feel as much like a spoiler if you're getting to see the place for the first time as you run it. So I read up about dungeons before I run them, but I don't watch videos of them.

[vanityobscene]

Personally, I find the text dungeon guides in most wiki sites to be somewhat of a middle ground. They provide info about the major obstacles and mechanics you'll encounter, but at least your own run is the first time you actually see the place.

It's still a spoiler in the sense that you already know what to do and don't have to learn it the hard way, but it doesn't feel as much like a spoiler if you're getting to see the place for the first time as you run it. So I read up about dungeons before I run them, but I don't watch videos of them.

Any text guides worthy of looking at? I've found IGN guides to be abhorrent insofar as how many things are plainly wrong (or outdated) in their guides when it comes to FFXIV.

[Niwashi]

Any text guides worthy of looking at? I've found IGN guides to be abhorrent insofar as how many things are plainly wrong (or outdated) in their guides when it comes to FFXIV.

Eorzea Reborn has some nice ones. I usually just Google the dungeon name and check the first two or three guides that pop up on the list. (Checking at least a couple provides some protection against bad info in one.) Those tend to be some combination of consolegameswiki, gamerescape, ign, ffxivinfo, ffxivguild, or eorzeareborn.

(Note: I've only completed up through Brayflox's Longstop in the story, so can't vouch for how good anyplace's guides are on endgame content.)

[Clavaat]

A lot of the early dungeons in this game are fairly self-explanatory, and actually give you clues to how fights will work later. For example, interacting with the water bubbles on the final boss in Sastasha prevents adds from appearing. This mechanic appears in several places later in the game, or something similar to it. Aurum Vale has almost the exact same boss appear in Halatali HM, so even without a guide, you knew what was going to happen. If you remember several mechanics from Ultima, you will know what to do in a few of the phases of Ultima HM, albeit to a less forgiving extent.

If you've ever seen Egoraptor's Sequilitis series, particularly on Megaman X, this kind of system comes to mind. You may learn best through the gameplay, not someone telling you what to do.

Also, as stated before, guides, both video and written can be incredibly unreliable. They will explain the mechanics once and how they dealt with it, and not offer alternatives, or they will not update their content when a new idea comes up, so you have to cross-reference dates and information. This has been happening to me frequently with T5, as everyone seems to have done it a different way, and do not explain the mechanics well. "Do this." is much less helpful than "Do this because this can happen." Depending on your group, there is not 1 end all be all strategy that will get you a clear.

[vanityobscene]

A lot of the early dungeons in this game are fairly self-explanatory, and actually give you clues to how fights will work later. For example, interacting with the water bubbles on the final boss in Sastasha prevents adds from appearing. This mechanic appears in several places later in the game, or something similar to it. Aurum Vale has almost the exact same boss appear in Halatali HM, so even without a guide, you knew what was going to happen. If you remember several mechanics from Ultima, you will know what to do in a few of the phases of Ultima HM, albeit to a less forgiving extent.

If you've ever seen Egoraptor's Sequilitis series, particularly on Megaman X, this kind of system comes to mind. You may learn best through the gameplay, not someone telling you what to do.Also, as stated before, guides, both video and written can be incredibly unreliable. They will explain the mechanics once and how they dealt with it, and not offer alternatives, or they will not update their content when a new idea comes up, so you have to cross-reference dates and information. This has been happening to me frequently with T5, as everyone seems to have done it a different way, and do not explain the mechanics well. "Do this." is much less helpful than "Do this because this can happen." Depending on your group, there is not 1 end all be all strategy that will get you a clear.

Great reply. I alluded to some of what you said in an earlier reply about how you simply won't get the full grasp until you're in the thick of it. My main class is tank, and I feel very much like a bafoon on every new dungeon I enter because I'm fumbling around all the time figuring it all out, even after checking a guide to get some idea. Moving up the lvl30s, I'm now finding guides to almost be an information overload, and I often forget everything I watched or read until the last second anyway.

There's a lot of pressure on the tank, and after feeling really quite dull the last few dungeons I've decided to go back to basics and practice my skills, and not move on till I feel confident. But this pressure isn't helped by the fact that as a new player I didn't know to join the servers that were new because I didn't know they were newbie servers. So I find myself on coeurl, often teamed with people much higher leveled than I am, and often expecting much more from me than I am currently capable of. But to digress, I've come this far and that means I've committed to the server I'm on. No point in changing now, and paying for a transfer seems a tad silly.