Leaving the game

[Starlord]

You are wrong and so are your friends, I have been doing fates before atma was around and people still did them, now they just do them even more I even heard people complaining they cannot level low levels because fates disappear too fast.

The real reason they did it was to slow your progression that way you couldn't kill content before they could produce it but you guys gotta have everything now now now now like a little kid kicking and screaming for candy in a store.

To be honest they did this, so SE can say to new players (PS4) LOOK AT ALL THOSE PLAYERS DOING FATES ( Show that a lot of players play the game). However, them slowing people's progression is an added bonus to them.

[HeroSamson]

To be honest they did this, so SE can say to new players (PS4) LOOK AT ALL THOSE PLAYERS DOING FATES ( Show that a lot of players play the game). However, them slowing people's progression is an added bonus to them.

people would of been doing fates regardless so that isn't it, new people join everyday and people swapped from ps3 > ps4 and already had high levels.

[Starlord]

people would of been doing fates regardless so that isn't it, new people join everyday and people swapped from ps3 > ps4 and already had high levels.

At least on my server, before Atma, I don't see many people doing FATEs, most do Dungeons ( where they are hidden and can't be seen by the server pop.)

[i2agnarok]

people would of been doing fates regardless so that isn't it, new people join everyday and people swapped from ps3 > ps4 and already had high levels.

I'm sure the fact that Atmas are placed in all the zones that were dead on fates is just a coincidence. The fact that the areas that had the most fate activity, ie Coerthas, don't have Atmas has nothing to do with it. /sarcasm
Atma was created as a way to populate the barren Fate areas, no matter how any tries to spin it.
It slowing progression, as someone said, is just killing two birds with one stone.

Virtually every Fate zone was completely dead with little to no Fate activity except for Coerthas and SOMETIMES Costa Del Sol.
There have been Threads about it and lowbie FC members complained about it daily because they can't really use them to level.
My friends on JP servers say that they see people doing them regularly, but this appears to be the minority.

[lxSch]

You are wrong and so are your friends, I have been doing fates before atma was around and people still did them, now they just do them even more I even heard people complaining they cannot level low levels because fates disappear too fast.

The real reason they did it was to slow your progression that way you couldn't kill content before they could produce it but you guys gotta have everything now now now now like a little kid kicking and screaming for candy in a store.

Anyone who complains about fates are the ones who want it easy. So far this is what I get when I say something about that.

Extremes same thing, then you ask then what do you want you guys have no answer because you want it handed to you ive seen higher the drop rate.

I come to conclusion that you guys are no gamers but spoiled too used to getting what you want you keep begging whining till they break down and give you it for free with out hurdles to jump, then the next thing they make you'll cry again and next the cry again.

because you want it handed to you, like I said no hurdles to jump over for your gear or items.

even if you say "no we don't" then why you whining on forums for change? give me a good answer because you want it now for all jobs faster than you're getting it which is easier.

We have been playing games since 198x/199x.
Community clearly said before - rework titan extreme so it would not be a mistake-intolerant ping check.
Also community have asked for a good old grind many times, but ignored.
Many have asked for a meaningful craft, but again ignored.
So i think saying that we just want everything handed is not correct.
Also, the biggest change from 2.1 to 2.2 for me was that in 2.1 i had a big variety of activities to do while they all would allow me to progress in ilvl, but in 2.2 i have to do what se wants (grind fates in xx location or camp a fate at xx spot for hours) - this kills fun, people do not relax by doing what they are told to do.

[Lambadelta]

Also, the biggest change from 2.1 to 2.2 for me was that in 2.1 i had a big variety of activities to do while they all would allow me to progress in ilvl, but in 2.2 i have to do what se wants (grind fates in xx location or camp a fate at xx spot for hours) - this kills fun, people do not relax by doing what they are told to do.

Levi, Coil and Animus. You have 3 choices for weapon progression.

[lxSch]

Levi, Coil and Animus. You have 3 choices for weapon progression.

Levi and coil are ruined by echo and fast gear progression. If you try to PF/DF it there will be mostly i90+ people who have no clue how to play their class, because they started playing just a month ago and zerged everything up until. In 2.1 4-player dungeons were harder, hm primals were even harder, ex primals - very hard. People had to learn their class and dodging step by step, not like now.

[HeroSamson]

Anyone who complains about fates are the ones who want it easy. So far this is what I get when I say something about that.

"its not that we want it easy" "I just don't wanna grind fates for all my weapons we don't want easy at all"

Dungeons you complete and doesn't drop 20 dungeons through you'll say same thing I don't wanna grind it.

Extremes same thing, then you ask then what do you want you guys have no answer because you want it handed to you ive seen higher the drop rate.

[HeroSamson]

I come to conclusion that you guys are no gamers but spoiled too used to getting what you want you keep begging whining till they break down and give you it for free with out hurdles to jump, then the next thing they make you'll cry again and next the cry again.

because you want it handed to you, like I said no hurdles to jump over for your gear or items.

even if you say "no we don't" then why you whining on forums for change? give me a good answer because you want it now for all jobs faster than you're getting it which is easier.

[Killabye]

[QUOTE=HeroSamson;2050802]I come to conclusion that you guys are no gamers but spoiled too used to getting what you want you keep begging whining till they break down and give you it for free with out hurdles to jump, then the next thing they make you'll cry again and next the cry again.

because you want it handed to you, like I said no hurdles to jump over for your gear or items.

Sorry bud, some of us were gaming while you were still a twinkle in your mums eye. An old rpg 40hrs to beat, another 40 to beat it down hard. I've been in t5 at least 15hrs, prolly a good 12 of that was talking or blaming people. I've never had 1 boss take me 15 hrs, even before mr happy guides or even written guides. In metal gear solid there was a boss you had to disconnect your controller so he couldn't read your mind. There was never ever a guide for that youngster