2.25 in 9 days or less. Animus weapon owners, are you excited?

[Skyl1n3]

And there are people who are in fact less lucky than you who have yet to finish gathering their atma in spite of a not insubstantial amount of grinding. It's a garbage system and the people defending it genuinely terrify me.

I'm not defending it, the Atma grinding was one of the worst experiences ever and nearly sent me bordering on insane, but the thing is people expect it 'now now now' and at the end of it you have a big sigh of relief and perhaps accomplishment, yes some people have different luck with the drops but everyone will get them eventually, wether it be through continued grinding or SE caving into the bottle-fed community yelling about the low drops rates and increasing them to 15-20%

[Bluemist]

I've never expected now now now, but after 40 hours+ of nothing but fate grinding for only 2 atma pieces, i'm tired of seeing atma. For all these hours I've gotten a lot of GC seals, which have only gone to ventures, and nothing really accomplised. It's a bullshit archaic RNG system. Fix it, plain and simple. Personally, that's the argument for patch 2.25, and tbh, it's SE, I'm not expecting a real fix. These shouldn't be now now now weapons, but they should be decently accessible as relics in XIV have been the more "casual" EG weapons. IE, only 3 EG weapon types in 2.1, Zentih, Primal, Allagan. 2.2? Animus which depending on luck takes a few hours of atma grinding, or like me, a stupid amount of time, then you have Levi Ex which are more or less equal, the Sol weapons, then High allagan. Since Relics were a quest, make atma/animus a quest.

[Issachar]

Which is where you are so wrong....people who got their Atmas in 12 hours, that's pure LUCK, so they certainly didn't put a "bit" more time and maybe "effort" into anything, all they had was good luck. This attitude of "I'm uberI have 4 atmas" is ridiculous, it means absolutely NOTHING...except they were exceptionally lucky. There are folks on here who have been solidly grinding and still only have 1 or maybe 2 Atmas, and I'm sure they put a lot more time and loads more effort in than the aforementioned lucky ones.

So no....lucky ones now have to put up with a bit of bad luck...the quest doesn't continue because the MAJORITY of players don't have animus.

So...the bad people are holding us back then.

[Ooshima]

So no....lucky ones now have to put up with a bit of bad luck...the quest doesn't continue because the MAJORITY of players don't have animus.

So, like I said again, back in 2.1 there are still shit load of people who can't even clear Titan EX and Turn 5, should SE withhold the release of the 2nd Coil and Levi EX?

No right? They proceed to release the 2nd coil while nerfing all previous contents. Those who have completed have new content to progress to while those playing catch up will catch up.

So the thing is, why double standards now? They can still release Novus as it is and nerf the Atma/Animus line. If they think Novus needs a nerf later, do it later as they wish, just like how they nerfed Twintania's twister.

That's my point here, any probably the same point as others who had the Animus and was disappointed at the decision to hold back.

[Musashidon]

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there is no double standard.

titan ex wasn't part of the relic quest. while yes people couldn't beat titan ex they never had to they already had their i90 relic.

now if titan ex had become part of it and we had to do titan ex to get our relics to i90 yea it would be the same.

[Ooshima]

there is no double standard.

titan ex wasn't part of the relic quest. while yes people couldn't beat titan ex they never had to they already had their i90 relic.

now if titan ex had become part of it and we had to do titan ex to get our relics to i90 yea it would be the same.

Don't selectively reply, how about coil then. They didn't withhold 2nd coil despite most people doesn't even clear T5.

TBH I don't even see what's the problem. I've cleared T5 prior to that and in fact I welcome more people to clear and join us (those who cleared) with the new content.

It doesn't make sense to prohibit other people's progression to let the rest to play catch up.

And IMO, if people get to see how Novus looks like and the stats and what not, they might be motivated to do it as well if it triggers their desire to own them. Of course, whether or not the requirements for Novus is shitty like Animus quest line is another matter. What I'm concerned here is that SE doesn't withhold coil despite most people not even clearing T5 while they are withholding Novus because most people doesn't have an Animus.

[Musashidon]

like i said it's not a double standard.

you say not everyone beat coil t5 but t6-9 is now out.

are you saying you can compare something that was given 6 months to something that was give 1?

yea it would be double standard if coil t6-9 was released 1 month after coil t1-5 and only BG had beaten it. but that's not what happened they wanted to extend the quest but decided against it because it was to early they hadn't even adjusted it. like t5 it got plenty of nerfs before t6 came out, now i am not saying atma and animus have to be nerfed alot because the next part comes out but to compare 1 month to 6 months is two different things.

when you have people that play maybe a couple hours a day or maybe 10 hours a week 6 months is alot more time then 1 month the difference in what a player can do is immense.

[Doo]

It doesn't make sense to prohibit other people's progression to let the rest to play catch up.

It's always been like that really. This game never really lets you get too far ahead of everyone else. Just look at Mor Dhona, everyone wears the same gear. You can still get Soldiery gear even without clearing T5.

[scarebearz]

So, like I said again, back in 2.1 there are still shit load of people who can't even clear Titan EX and Turn 5, should SE withhold the release of the 2nd Coil and Levi EX?

Clearing Titan Ex or T5 was not based on RNG/luck.

They did however nerf these to make them more accessible to the masses.

[Ooshima]

Well, that sucks then. I suppose if 2.25 doesn't come with some nerf and players decided to continue the boycott/not doing it and those who tries still either getting bad RNG or still unable to complete it 4 weeks later (which I personally speculate that's the time for 2.28, in line with 20% coil Echo), does this mean SE will consider holding back Novus again?

And seriously thou, how far/how much advantage will Novus get you? It won't even be some spectacular update since the most important thing about the whole questline is being able to customize the secondary stats, which will only be available in it's final form according to 2.2 Live Letter. Which will only happen in 2.3

*shrugs*

Clearing Titan Ex or T5 was not based on RNG/luck.

They did however nerf these to make them more accessible to the masses.

That's unrelated. The whole point is they proceeded with new progression content while easing older one for masses to catch up.

If you want to talk about skill, that makes it even more funny. Because Animus doesn't take skill, it just take time and a little of luck.