Thread: Some contents in 1.23 are better than ARR

Originally Posted by Lamentations

Because anti-social people play MMOs because it is sooo easy to hide behind that mmo toon anonimity, his comment about forcing people to form groups falls flat because DF/PF does the very same thing anyway, the downfall of this system as opposed to xis is that you at least had the opportunity to get to know and weed **holes out of your "groups", not just get thrown together in a good guy/**hole salad.

They (SE) need to patch an option for allowing same server grouping only, I don't consider PF the answer.

Regarding DF/PF, not exactly. Being forced to shout for hours on end to get a group together would kill my attention span and send me off to play another game. I don't play games with the intention of spending more time waiting than playing.

PF allows you to set up your own rules and requirements. It is more like Shouting without having to spam it constantly in order to reach new people. It also stretches across zones to make it more easily accessible. Its use has skyrocketed since Atma came released and people are actively using it, and I can focus on other things. It is a fantastic tool.

DF allows me to just jump right (inb4DPSqueueQQ) in with a bunch of randoms with the intention of just getting it done. Assuming you don't get a bunch of clowns that can't follow directions (which unfortunately happens way more often than it should), you can just finish the content. It is also a great asset. You don't have to worry about getting screened like you would with PF or shouting.

While I don't really mind a "same server grouping" option for DF, I don't particularly think the experience is going change dramatically, other than you can make potential friends...which you can also do just by using PF. o_o

Also, I completely fail to see what the difference is between using party finder and shouting to "weed out" people you don't want to group with again. Maybe there is just something else in the metagame of 11 that I'm overlooking.

Originally Posted by Artemed

This sums up my thoughts exactly. I don't cater to the hardcore/casual crap. There can be people who spend a ton of time in the game and they can be completely useless in a group setting just as there is a person who only logs for a couple hours a week, but are completely awesome and are a boon for anyone that groups with them. Personally I'd rather group people as competent or incompetent, even though that itself is an assholish way to look at things, but when I want to do something in the game, I want to get it done with as little stress as possible, I get enough of that crap irl. As for the people who are bad and make no efforts to improve themselves or willing to recognize their own shortcomings? I don't want them in my groups, and while the majority of this game is by no means 'hard' (certain fights withstanding, I'm looking at you Titan...) I don't want to waste time having to babysitting someone who should be able to handle themselves and are willing to improvise in a pinch.

I can't speak for anyone else, but having read this, my opinion of you and your stance has changed entirely. I feel like if the community as a whole took this approach when posting stuff on a forum full of anonymous gamers, there'd be so much less flaming and Crystal TardWar would be more bearable.