What is an 'Elitist'

[Worm]

Elitists have to be part of an actual elite. It goes beyond just being good or skilled but I always felt it refers to players who are in a class of their own pushing content immediately and getting it on farm status very quickly. Duty finder all-stars aren't what I'd call elite.

It's kind of funny to listen to people's opinions on this though, since I imagine every dickhead who fumbles his way through duty finder groups thinks he's one of the few proud elite.

edit: I mean it also is used as a pejorative for players ranging from people who politely expect competence all the way to crazy rage quitters who have undeserved egos. However when I think of it like "that guy is elite" I think of what I typed out above.

[Kosmos992k]

Elitists have to be part of an actual elite.

Utterly incorrect. An elitist is almost by definition not part of the Elite. An elite group *is* elite because they are actually the best at something, otherwise they could not be elite. An Elitist is someone who sets themself above others regardless of their own actual or apparent skill. An elitist not only makes a distinction between varying levels of skill (or whatever) but they also discriminate based on that. The elitist will discriminate against others placing themself above others on whatever basis for discrimination they have chose as the basis for their elitist attitude.

An elitist does not need to be an elite player or elite in any way at all to be elitist. Yiou could be the worst player in the game, but gil from RMTs, purchase BiS gear and runs through various content with that gil to obtain all the shinies, and be the most elitist jerk on the server. In fact you'd have to be one of the more elitist people if you did that since you'd need to surround yourself with over geared people in order to do anything without purchasing a carry.

[Worm]

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Oh well close up the thread guys this person knows the discrete and exact definition of what an elitist is with reference to it's specific use within MMOs.

Honestly I wouldn't mind your post so much if you didn't lead with "utterly incorrect" language elitist much?

[Kosmos992k]

Oh well close up the thread guys this person knows the discrete and exact definition of what an elitist is with reference to it's specific use within MMOs.

Honestly I wouldn't mind your post so much if you didn't lead with "utterly incorrect" language elitist much?

Well your first statement was incorrect in every way I could see, in other words, utterly incorrect.

[RickXRolled]

If I call a bad player bad, simply because he really is bad and won' t listen to advice and continues to mess up. Does that make me elitist? Allot of the playerbase seems to think so. Sounds more like a poor retort to me.

I' d rather do titan hm in df with people in darklight that do well and improve then get it in roulette with everyone Ilvl85+ and failing with 5 stacks of echo.

[Worm]

Well your first statement was incorrect in every way I could see, in other words, utterly incorrect.

Oh so you think people use it in MMOs to refer to a person who is like a peasant who earnestly believes the noblemen are the best people to be in power? Obviously no one is trying to decide what is the best ruling structure for a MMO since there isn't a ruling structure for it. Additionally, I don't remember a single player who you might call an elitist, whether they're good or not, actually believing they are bad. The word is used in MMOs in a different way then referring to power structure of elitist societies, wow, who would have thought? If you want to come up with some more discrete term like 'delusion self loathing bad player' or something that's fine but I don't think it's that incorrect to conflate Elitist and Elite for the sake of MMOs, especially considering that's the common use in games beyond it just being a pejorative.

edit: I actually read your original response to me that I disregarded, aren't you just defining the pejorative here? "An Elitist is someone who sets themself above others regardless of their own actual or apparent skill." you're just defining dickhead here, you know that right? Do you really think elite top level players NEVER think they're above other players, or is it because they are actually superior then it ... no longer is Elitism?

[Kosmos992k]

Oh so you think people use it in MMOs to refer to a person who is like a peasant who earnestly believes the noblemen

You're doing pretty well at illustrating what an elitist is. Where on this green earth did peasants and noblemen enter my reply? Good grief. Hyperbole much?