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  1. #141
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    Grey_Cain's Avatar
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    Cara Verant
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    Ultros
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    Conjurer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempting View Post
    Keeping the class system in its current state will kill future replay of the game.

    Imagine if a new jobs come out, but you have already leveled the class to 50. You are just instant 50 or whatever max is? Thats terrible design.
    Although it doesn't solve the problem of being insta-50 with a second job, I'd like to see new skills similar to how you (used to) earn PvP skills. I'd rather earn and spend points to raise the ranks of the 1-50 abilities as well as be able to spend points to learn new abilities post-50. It gives you something to work towards instead of having it handed over for little effort, and I think it provides much better expandability than simply raising the level cap. The example that this idea came from: SMN could get access to new egi summons when/shortly after each new primal is released, instead of having to wait for who knows how long for the next level cap increase.

    To sort of add to the discussion, I think it would be cool for the third ACN job to be a tank job with non-primal summons such as Good King Moggle Mog and Ultima Weapon. However, as far as I don't have ACN levelled past 15, I couldn't tell how difficult something like tank-swapping would be with a pet, and SE would also need to fix the issue that, as far as I know, other healers have to hard target the summon to use anything directly on it (that is, mouse click/over or tab through targets with appropriate filters set, rather than being able to simply press a function key or cycle up/down with gamepad).
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  2. #142
    Player TeganLaron's Avatar
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    Tegan Laron
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    Cerberus
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    Just out of interest, why are lots of you listing type of class as support. There is no support classes, the closest is Bard and they still tag that as a DPS. If they introduced Support alongside Healer, DPS, Tank it would really screw up DF queues and the like.
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  3. #143
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    lololink's Avatar
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    Nel Artux
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    Asura
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    Gladiator Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Just out of interest, why are lots of you listing type of class as support. There is no support classes, the closest is Bard and they still tag that as a DPS. If they introduced Support alongside Healer, DPS, Tank it would really screw up DF queues and the like.
    Don't smash their dreams, they still thinks that supports are coming.
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  4. #144
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    Bloodclaw Talon
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    Hyperion
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    Marauder Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by TeganLaron View Post
    Just out of interest, why are lots of you listing type of class as support. There is no support classes, the closest is Bard and they still tag that as a DPS. If they introduced Support alongside Healer, DPS, Tank it would really screw up DF queues and the like.
    Honestly, a lot of these classes could be support or hybrid. I will go back and tweek them in a bit. However I see the game designers trying to stay away from DPS for a while.
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  5. #145
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    Swag Zilla
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    Malboro
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    Marauder Lv 32
    Most of you probably remember/seen this, but nonetheless; but pretty interesting/funny to look at.
    http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...s-in-FFXIV-ARR.

    Dat whip tho^^ What would a flayer have been like?

    Old news; most likely scrapped/meaningless stuff; most of the jobs on that listed are already implemented; the assassin and gun class appear to be otw.

    Anyway; I predict another pet class; don't know what it would be, just my gut feeling.

    The op metioned a dragon pet class; I always wanted to control a dragon in XI, but bahamut was never going to be released, bst only carried trash jugs, and dragoons had wimpy pets. A real dragon would be neat^^
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    Last edited by Swagcity; 05-27-2014 at 01:13 PM.

  6. #146
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    Andres Lonegrief
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    Ragnarok
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    Arcanist Lv 80
    I used to think that any new job would come as a result of a new class lv30 + already introduced class lv15. This would make things a bit easier but you still would have to master a class in order to have that particular job at its maximum. I don't know if I have been clear sorry.

    However, isn't strange that SE is waiting to show the new jobs until E3 when we already know what they will be?
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  7. #147
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    Swag Zilla
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    Malboro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Andres_Lonegrief View Post
    I used to think that any new job would come as a result of a new class lv30 + already introduced class lv15. This would make things a bit easier but you still would have to master a class in order to have that particular job at its maximum. I don't know if I have been clear sorry.

    However, isn't strange that SE is waiting to show the new jobs until E3 when we already know what they will be?
    All of them?^^

    Well, he said great announcements will be made on June 10th, could be multiple jobs. Although I dissed it; that dated list was pretty spot on; would not be shocked if one of those were announced; samurai (sam is gonna see the light of day sometime), assassin (Given), or flayer (Another pet job would be nice).
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  8. #148
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    Andres Lonegrief
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swagcity View Post
    All of them?^^

    Well, he said great announcements will be made on June 10th, could be multiple jobs. Although I dissed it; that dated list was pretty spot on; would not be shocked if one of those were announced; samurai (sam is gonna see the light of day sometime), assassin (Given), or flayer (Another pet job would be nice).
    SAM would turn me into a tank, but while I'd love to see a RED MAGE I'm quite sure we won't get nothing but THIEF and NINJA+ a class (if THF won't turn out to be a class and not a job). Anyway ... let's wait and see
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  9. #149
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    Hazel Mimelia
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 70
    Wonder why the shepherd class was scrapped. I wouldn't mind owning a farm.
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  10. #150
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    Deeg Astra
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    Balmung
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    Thaumaturge Lv 50
    A lot of those classes were supposedly originated by data mining the original 1.0 client. This would be pre-Yoshida.

    I remember Tanaka referencing Ultima Online a lot as inspiration way before FF14 1.0 was even in beta. So I think FF14 1.0 was intended to be more "sandboxy" whereas FFXI drew a lot f inspiration from EverQuest.

    Unfortunately, Tanaka and his team were unable to bring all the systems together so all that was left was a not so great MMO with intermittent moments of greatness.

    Speculation was that the Shepherd probably would've been a Disciple of Land class.
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