2nd Job Predictions

[Malamasala]

Those who did not play 1.0 would most likely not know this. But Yoshida said before that classes will be able to use different types of weapons like Gladiator eventually being able to use Greatswords (this was an example proposed by him), because they can already access daggers/swords which gives them a variety in which weapons they wield. So take this into account for specifying your jobs sirs and madams.

Two different view points. I don't disagree with your view that a class can go from swords to great swords.

But remember that if a job like RDM is supposed to have swords, then the class will also have swords. And while not impossible to go from staffs to swords or bows to swords, it seems less likely than go from swords to swords.

[Bloodclaw]

So if for example Conjurer would go RDM with swords, it would mean Conjurer could equip swords too. Which is unlikely.

You just can't say that and have it be true. There are a number of equipment that are job specific and list no class accessibility in the game; this would allow for an entirely new weapon for a job and that job only. Look at the AF armor.

[Caselia]

RDM isn't iconic to using swords, it's just one of the type of weapons it was capable of wielding. However if Yoshida wished to make RDM wield swords highest chances are it would branch from a new class that fit it's description more than Gladiator. Fencer is an example someone proposed earlier that it could branch from, but then we also must take into account Advanced Jobs, sadly I don't know how they will work, although I can see RDM being an advanced job because they're suppose to be able to use Black and White magic. Although they can still use Black and White magic as a regular job, it might seem gimped depending on the base class.
Edit: The base classes we have now just do not fit Red Mage other than Thaumaturge trait wise.

In Final Fantasy 1 the Red Mage becomes the Red Wizard and could use all weapons. Even as a Red Mage he could use swords and daggers. Do you have examples of red mages not using swords at all?

As someone said after this post. I never said they can't use, I just said it's not iconic to the job. But if you want examples of RDM not using Swords at all ask people who played FF games and when they never used sword on RDM is all I can give as they are the jack of all trades they can use any weapon they please mostly. Swords are just not the main icon of their job. I would quote another post to correct their information, as they base on google, swords are iconic to RDM because they mostly see it with swords does not make it iconic to the job. Also, in Bravely Default which is pretty much a spin-off of Final Fantasy, I used RDM with staffs.

[Lunavi]

One question though: Why assuming that they will run on different base stats and have different roles? We have only one class that splits into two jobs using that data as premise for how everything will be ruled sounds dumb.

[Kuwagami]

On RDM, they are using mainly rapiers, but can equip some of the great holy swords or a few elemental swords as well, and they are perfectly at ease with staves and rods. (compatibility with cnj AND thm gear).

Also, although their background isn't that much close to conjurer's spirit, they could perfectly come from experiments the thaumaturges would have wanted to conduct on the planet's energy. Thaumaturgy is centered around the destruction and using one's self aether flow to turn their enemies to ashes. If some thaumaturges had decided to investigate and found a way to extract the nature's aether to get more power for themselves, they would have necessarily acquired some knowledge about the conjurer's way, mixing it with their own art to bring an even more powerful use of the aether.

One question though: Why assuming that they will run on different base stats and have different roles? We have only one class that splits into two jobs using that data as premise for how everything will be ruled sounds dumb.

Because the aim of creating new jobs out of existing classes should be to diversify their gameplay. As an example, there is little to no room to create a new healer out of the conjurer, though creating (example) green mage would allow to get a whole new range of buffs as a support job

[Lunavi]

Because the aim of creating new jobs out of existing classes should be to diversify their gameplay. As an example, there is little to no room to create a new healer out of the conjurer, though creating (example) green mage would allow to get a whole new range of buffs as a support job

While I see that part I see no hard time creating a new DPS job out of Bard that works in a different way. What I have a fun time seeing though is SE making a healer out of BLM Blizzhealer will be best healer Make it happen SE!

[Bloodclaw]

RDM isn't iconic to using swords, it's just one of the type of weapons it was capable of wielding. However if Yoshida wished to make RDM wield swords highest chances are it would branch from a new class that fit it's description more than Gladiator. Fencer is an example someone proposed earlier that it could branch from, but then we also must take into account Advanced Jobs, sadly I don't know how they will work, although I can see RDM being an advanced job because they're suppose to be able to use Black and White magic. Although they can still use Black and White magic as a regular job, it might seem gimped depending on the base class.
Edit: The base classes we have now just do not fit Red Mage other than Thaumaturge trait wise.

In Final Fantasy 1 the Red Mage becomes the Red Wizard and could use all weapons. Even as a Red Mage he could use swords and daggers. Do you have examples of red mages not using swords at all?

[Kuwagami]

In Final Fantasy 1 the Red Mage becomes the Red Wizard and could use all weapons. Even as a Red Mage he could use swords and daggers. Do you have examples of red mages not using swords at all?

just quoting her :
"RDM isn't iconic to using swords, it's just one of the type of weapons it was capable of wielding"
Never said that RDM can't use swords. Olus that was right, RDM isn't iconic to using swords. When they're locked into specific weapon types, it's either rapier or staves/rods, with a very few exception (thinking of excalibur in FFXII)

While I see that part I see no hard time creating a new DPS job out of Bard that works in a different way. What I have a fun time seeing though is SE making a healer out of BLM Blizzhealer will be best healer Make it happen SE!

That's because bard is a support ._.
When SE finally release the support role as a distinctive branch, I think bard will be seriously nerfed to become more an utility job than what we have now. And we may see ranger to fill the dps role ^^

[LadyVaJedi]

Red mages are combat mages. They can use swords and rapiers. If we look at their outfit they were fencers in FF 11. And it were the players that made them backline healers.

[Bloodclaw]

just quoting her :
"RDM isn't iconic to using swords, it's just one of the type of weapons it was capable of wielding"
Never said that RDM can't use swords. Olus that was right, RDM isn't iconic to using swords. When they're locked into specific weapon types, it's either rapier or staves/rods, with a very few exception (thinking of excalibur in FFXII)

I made a point that the RDM used swords from day one. You rise a valid point, but I was wondering if someone could bring an example of the job not being able to use a sword to support the argument/point. I gave evidence against said argument, I am looking for evidence for their argument.
P.S. Basically when were they locked into staves/rods.