2nd Job Predictions

[Xandim]

Also Yoshi-P clearly said he wants DRK to come from the Gladiator class; this is presumably to make the player choose between DRK and PLD as the classes preferred, or focused toward, job.

Wasn't that just an example? I remember him saying that as an example only and he wasn't confirming that DRK would come from GLA. He said that to demonstrate that he would like the player to decide between one job or another, probably akin to how SMN/SCH is. But then again, DRK coming from GLA would be so cool.... Like what you prefer? Being the good guy that will help others by taking dmg over them as PLD or being the 'bad' guy and helping others by killing their enemy? *_*

[HaimbalTetstch]

Also Yoshi-P clearly said he wants DRK to come from the Gladiator class; this is presumably to make the player choose between DRK and PLD as the classes preferred, or focused toward, job.

Where did he say this?

[Chiramu]

I still want WHM/SMN like in FFXI.

[Bloodclaw]

Wasn't that just an example? I remember him saying that as an example only and he wasn't confirming that DRK would come from GLA. He said that to demonstrate that he would like the player to decide between one job or another, probably akin to how SMN/SCH is. But then again, DRK coming from GLA would be so cool.... Like what you prefer? Being the good guy that will help others by taking dmg over them as PLD or being the 'bad' guy and helping others by killing their enemy? *_*

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...t-and-Arcanist

[Xandim]

"I wanted to step in and let you all know that what was written in ConnectOn interview were just a few of the random ideas (or delusions ) that Yoshida was kicking around in his head, none of which are finalized concepts"

This was also mentioned so no, yoshi never CONFIRMED that DRK is coming from GLA, he specifically said that when he was giving that as example...

[HakuroDK]

On the subject of Dark Knight:

A common trend in most RPG lore, as far back as AD&D at least, and included in Final Fantasy lore as well, is the duality of Paladins and Dark Knights. In Dungeons and Dragons, Blackguards (evil Paladins) are either seen as an advanced class for Paladins or as a special kit for Paladins who wish to be evil to take on character creation.

In Final Fantasy, the most famous Paladin in the entire franchise, Cecil Harvey, started out as a Dark Knight and became a Paladin. I simply cannot see Dark Knight coming from anything else than the class that spawns the Paladin simply for that kind of Duality.

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On the subject of other Second Jobs: Marauder

Marauder's second job will obviously be the DPS-heavy Berserker. I simply cannot see it being anything else anytime soon.

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On the subject of other Second Jobs: Lancer

There are a few other jobs who have been able to wield Lances and Spears. While it is a stretch, Edgar Figaro from FFVI was a combined Lancer and Engineer. Therefore, I think it would be reasonable to let Lancers become Engineers this way.

Also, in FFXI, the Samurai Job can also equip spears, and in FFTA, the Templar Job can also equip spears. So there's a couple thoughts.

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On the subject of other Second Jobs: Pugilist

The most likely one I can think of would be Black Belt, which would be much more like a traditional Final Fantasy monk in that it would have much higher HP.

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On the subject of other Second Jobs: Archer

The most obvious choice would be Ranger, but other options could include FFTA's Sniper.

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On the subject of other Second Jobs: Conjurer

There are many different mage Jobs that utilize White Magic or something similar. However, considering the Conjurer's direct ties to nature, I am willing to bet that Geomancer will be the most likely Second Job for the Conjurer.

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On the subject of other Second Jobs: Thaumaturge

There are many different mage Jobs that utilize Black Magic or something similar. However, with how Astral Fire and Umbral Ice work, I wonder if a twist could be put on those abilities and work well as a Time Mage, changing Astral Fire to Astral Haste to amplify spell speed (rather than increase damage) at the cost of increased MP, and Umbral Ice to Umbral Slow to regenerate MP quickly at the cost of reduced spell speed?

[Xandim]

^ IIRC yoshi said he doesn't want to give Haste as a spell/skill so people wouldn't depend solely on it, like only stacking skill/spell speed. But he could change his mind too. I just with we had more options, because everything seems the same to me for now. Like every SCH that I know of wants crit, WHM wants spell speed/det, etc.

[HakuroDK]

^ IIRC yoshi said he doesn't want to give Haste as a spell/skill so people wouldn't depend solely on it, like only stacking skill/spell speed. But he could change his mind too. I just with we had more options, because everything seems the same to me for now. Like every SCH that I know of wants crit, WHM wants spell speed/det, etc.

Well that's kinda why I suggested changing Astral Fire to Astral Haste and Umbral Ice to Umbral Slow. That way, Haste is technically being utilized by increasing the speed in which THM spells are cast (rather than amplifying their power directly) rather than as a spell to cast on any caster.

I mean heck, they could even get a self-targeting spell called "Quick", which eliminates the casting time of all spells for 10-15 seconds with, like, a 180-360 second cooldown.

[Xandim]

Well that's kinda why I suggested changing Astral Fire to Astral Haste and Umbral Ice to Umbral Slow. That way, Haste is technically being utilized by increasing the speed in which THM spells are cast (rather than amplifying their power directly) rather than as a spell to cast on any caster.

I mean heck, they could even get a self-targeting spell called "Quick", which eliminates the casting time of all spells for 10-15 seconds with, like, a 180-360 second cooldown.

I wish yoshi could do that to materias, like a materia that increases Fire Spells by 5%, or decrease their cast time, etc. Unless yoshi plans to do some sort of skill tree for that. I believe in XI it was called the merit points? never played XI so i can't say for sure =X

[Sapphic]

Whatever jobs they add they need to make sure to balance tank, dps, and healer.
If they just add dps classes the queues will be insane.

Adding more tank roles wont suddenly turn players who dont want to tank to decide to tank Can pretty safely say that adding more tank jobs wont magically balance out the que times at all.