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  1. #11
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    ariaandkia's Avatar
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    Ilydia Infinitum
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    Famfrit
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    Conjurer Lv 50
    As said earlier, one of the issues is that for the most part, there is no reason to go to normal mode. I did plenty of dungeons and even Titan (ended up kiting Titan after bard and paladin died and OB'ed (I got stoned)) with fairly low level gear. Heck, I solo'ed Stone vigil's first boss (level 41-43) with like level 25~30 gear with a few 35s). Early dungeons are pretty easy. Trials are a bit hard. End game dungeons can be hard without good gear.

    What is bad is when you say you are a new healer and NOBODY tells you ANYTHING even after you ask for anything important that you should know.

    Literally for most boss battles such as some end game trials:

    Me: (This is my first time)
    Me: Anything I should know or do for this fight?
    Tank: [no response]
    DPS: Just heal.
    DPS2: Don't get hit.
    Me: By what?
    DPS2: The attacks.
    Me: How do I dodge them?
    DPS2: Just don't get hit.

    Tank starts fight.

    Party wipe because I had no idea what I was supposed to dodge and died out of confusion. (like when a certain mob AoEs you and makes you lose control (lose control, run into AoE to die)). ENTIRE 8 player party knew EXCEPT for me. Down a healer, party wipes. About 3 times. Each time: What should I do? Each time: Heal us!

    Even worse is when someone overwrites my function set by giving me a command mid combat without giving me an exact command.

    Example: I'm healing tank. Tank goes: USE HOLY!

    So I use holy. Right there. Where I am. Because my function set that I was using just got overwritten. Tank dies. Blames me. (I am similar to a computer in a lot of ways so if I'm given a command without any preparation, I will follow it-reasons why I generally don't talk to humans near bridges or anything that could quickly do serious harm to me.)

    I've had one tank that gave me really clear instructions though, that was nice.

    "Use holy where I am"

    Even better commands would be great except they can be hard via text.

    Like one person in a game (with voice chat) gave me some nice commands. "Safely and silently head over to the tower and pull up next to the ally there."
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    The healer of love and justice! (Or the mad/insane/evil/berserk healer depending on who you talk to).
    I've played healers for so long that I can heal in my sleep literally (People have seen me do it).
    I like to do a bit of everything, but my preference is healing+support (until /that/ happens). FF14 title: Macro Queen

  2. #12
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    Makani Risvertasashi
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    Well... I'll be bluntly honest...

    I don't think HM primals and some other of the introductory 50 content is very hard but...

    The 'hardcore' endgame healing (t5, t6 at times, some ex primals...)... it can be really hard and stressful, especially if your party isn't perfect. Some fights, like Leviathan EX, seem almost setup to make people blame healers, when really the problem is killing 2+ gyres right as tidal roar goes off or something...

    Enough that I've thought about changing classes... but I just resubbed to another game so I'll probably just do that instead...
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  3. #13
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    ariaandkia's Avatar
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    Ilydia Infinitum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Risvertasashi View Post
    Well... I'll be bluntly honest...

    I don't think HM primals and some other of the introductory 50 content is very hard but...

    The 'hardcore' endgame healing (t5, t6 at times, some ex primals...)... it can be really hard and stressful, especially if your party isn't perfect. Some fights, like Leviathan EX, seem almost setup to make people blame healers, when really the problem is killing 2+ gyres right as tidal roar goes off or something...

    Enough that I've thought about changing classes... but I just resubbed to another game so I'll probably just do that instead...
    Healers take a huge amount of heat even without the mechanics pushing towards the healers.

    Tanks are rare so despite how bad they can be, people rarely will complain to their face. In fact, tanks are practically worshipped unless they are so bad that it is clear beyond any doubt.

    DPS-there are so many in the party that what one single DPS does or doesn't do generally gets overlooked.

    Healers-While not as common as DPS, they are currently more common than tanks for the most part and since the party can actively see the work of the healer (their hp stays up, they don't die), when they do die, their first thought generally will be: oh, healer didn't heal me.
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    The healer of love and justice! (Or the mad/insane/evil/berserk healer depending on who you talk to).
    I've played healers for so long that I can heal in my sleep literally (People have seen me do it).
    I like to do a bit of everything, but my preference is healing+support (until /that/ happens). FF14 title: Macro Queen

  4. #14
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    Tule Lycoris
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    Excalibur
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    Conjurer Lv 61
    Quote Originally Posted by ariaandkia View Post
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    I understand what you're saying, and I get it to a point. But Holy is your ability. You should know what it does and how to do it. Maybe there are situations where your use Holy is a slightly different way than normal. Maybe some situations where explaining to you would help you position yourself better and faster. However, if they are telling you to use Holy without any further instructions you should be able to, relatively reasonably, read the situation and make an educated guess as to how to use your move in that situation.
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  5. #15
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    Asny Rak'nys
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    Cerberus
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    Bard Lv 70
    I often go into titan nm as a healer to have a good chuckle at all the randomness that happens in there. That said I go with a known party into each run first as a healer just to get my bearings. Hell even went full DPS in a couple of runs with a heal here and there on the tank but other than that helped beat titan with just me and the tank alive hehe.
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    When I first did Titan NM i was stuck for two weeks or more, mainly because I had no regen and ran out of mp too frequently, and got land slided tons.

    For your healing issues:
    - keep everyone on regen, cure 1 or 2 the tank as needed
    - when jumps happen have everyone get very close to you, and cast medica just as titan is falling down, so that you could heal his damage as soon as it happens, then follow up with a second medica to keep everyone full
    - don't hesitate to interrupt your casts if you are about to get landslided, a late heal/raise is much better than a dead healer
    - the only interruptions which you will encounter are landslides are plumes, if you find yourself moving too much rely on regen, but if need be eat a plume (just one and only if you are geared enough for it lol) and heal yourself asap after it. Really you shouldn't move much except for those two.
    - regen will help your mp issues tons, but keep an x ether or something handy just in case. The only reason you would be going oom is everyone simply taking too much damage / you raising more than once / you over healing.
    - swiftcast if you have it would be your life very very easy.
    I found garuda nm to be easier than titan, and more difficult than garuda hm lol, I can't say if you will struggle or not. The dungeons you mentioned are easy to heal through if you know the strategies, and Qarn has been nerfed so its really easy now. Not gonna lie though, I don't want to heal AV ever again

    Healing relies heavily on how your party is performing. If everyone is doing their jobs, and dodging properly its gonna be smooth sailing, but since you are a healer you have to be prepared for anything. You have to watch your health, everyone's, anticipate big hits, dodge stuff, watch your enmity just to make sure you get through this.
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    Last edited by AiChyan; 04-24-2014 at 05:02 PM. Reason: more text

  7. #17
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    Emil Lacroix
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    Tonberry
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    White Mage Lv 60
    Think of the story mode primals as an opportunity to pick up good healing habits. First avoid Cure II like the plague unless coupled with Freecure. Even in end-game content I try to rely on Cure as much as possible. If you're playing catch up on the tank and can get by with spamming Cure alongside Regen then there's no need for Cure II. The same applies to Medica - in a lot of situations it may be wiser to individually Cure or slap a Regen on DPS if you can spare the time (particularly in 4 man content). I see Medica as more of a time saver when you need to top up multiple party members and only have one GCD to do it all in.

    Most important of all is to avoid overcuring. You know how much your cures heal for, and although WHM requires a bit of pre-emptive casting it's overall better to leave a tank just short of full than to overcure them. Let Regen do the rest and sit idle. Yes, idle. In higher level content you can use this time to drop dem Holies but in lower level stuff where your resources can be stretched thin, a tick or two of MP regen here and there can help a lot. So can an elixir, justsayin'
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