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    I suppose I just don't see the point of having a base-class for Jobs like Corsair or Ninja.

    You have perfectly good base templates for them already... and Jobs will further distinguish themselves come their release as Yoshida has gone on record to say the level-cap will be increased upon Job Releases.

    PGL>NJA seems to be a perfect fit... you can give Ninja their mechanics through Job-specific Abilities.

    ARC>MSK as well... why recreate the wheel when you can just enhance the archetype of a ranged damage-dealer.

    From a design-perspective, redundancies will occur... too many base-classes will just water down the uniqueness & create massive gear-bloat.

    For every single new Class, if they stick with the current iteration, they'd need to implement 2-3 Jobs each... a Relic for each, and Job-specific gear for each.

    Whereas you could cut the fat & implement just Ninja, just Musketeer (no Corsair, no Thief) and put those additional resources to better use.

    Also, as far as Musketeers & weapons are concerned... you could permit the class to equip a 2h Rifle or dual 1h Pistols, just as how a CNJ & THM can equip 1h/shield or 2h.
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    Last edited by Gesser; 04-21-2014 at 04:45 AM.

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    These forums topics being done to death.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    These forums topics being done to death.
    Please provide something constructive if you're going to post.
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    Feel free to critique him, unless you disagree, then disclaimer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DarkStar View Post
    Huh, guess I was mistaken when I thought you would be willing to let other people express their opinions. Oh well.

    Also, why I dislike Musketeer coming from Archer but don't mind Ninja from Pugilist: I must've missed the bit where you said that if you were in charge of class/job design you'd be giving extra weapon types to each class and job. I was going off the idea that Musketeers have nothing to do with Bows, but it's perfectly reasonable to believe that a Ninja could have extensive training in unarmed combat.

    Anyway, guess I'll be avoiding this topic from now on...
    Nah... It's more having to do with your written style. Phrases like "lolsoldier" & beginning a critique with "..." as well as saying an ideation 'should be' as your opinion suggests comes off as both condescending and pompous.
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    My iPhone won't let me edit my post for character limit changing... so here is the rest of my reply:

    "You're welcome to critique me, but to insult me as your written form would imply... it appears disrespectful & has the feeling of rudeness. While this may not have been your intent, I reiterate that is has the appearance of having been so."
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    Personally I have been thinking about this alot

    There's a handful of jobs that would fit the game but if i was to take into the next expansion into account of being the theme of "1000 year old war"

    DoL - Archaeologist - Surveying for ancient items such as ancient metal etc

    But the jobs i would like to see make an entrance really soon is Blue Mage and Ninja and Corsair
    Ninja i would like to be able to switch between DPS class and Tank class as this would be a great way to play the game that allows us to have the diversity that we want between our class.
    I suppose the same could apply to Blue mage as some people would enjoy tanking or DPS or Healing on that job and it also's a great way how the spells we learn could have Blue mage spells tied to that specific role and how gears could be changed between the roles we wanna undertake.
    Cos that what i kinda hate about FF14, there's no flexibility between our roles for some jobs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodclaw View Post
    This is a critique to a suggestion right? It would be like saying geomancer job should be based on the lancer class. Not going to happen. So here was an honest critique.
    Read Disclaimer 1... honestly there's no critique in telling a person 'not gonna happen', you haven't reviewed my idea(s) at all. There's a difference between critiquing and being a naysayer just for the sake of it.
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    Anyone have good ideas for another tank and healer job?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gesser View Post
    Anyone have good ideas for another tank and healer job?
    New healer job is easy. The game is crying out for dancer. Melee healer, yes please.

    Also the reason musketeer needs to be a class of its own rather than coming from arc is because the community would go opo opo shit if ranger isn't the next arc job.
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    Last edited by charlemagne; 04-22-2014 at 09:16 PM.

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