Any plans for Skillchains?

[Spuffin]

Will agree the br system is far more flexible and potent then the sc system ever was. Hell i managed to do a regiment of ruin(i think) with a friend who was out goofing around on bot. (Stone throw -> Maim) Poor Gertrude didn't see the 2k Maim i dished out coming, Hell even i was surprised by it.

Now if they keep the same basic framework and allow auto attack to continue working along with adding in actual animations for the successful regiments it would be darn near perfect. Ya know the thing that really makes br's brutal and i mean bording on exessive force and treding into possible war crime territory is that even with out triggering a successful regiment (which like i said earlier is pretty hard not to do) you still gain the benefit of the progressive damage buff for the skills further down the line.

You sir are wrong. BR being more flexible and less complicated than a SC? Watch these two videos and then tell me how you stand correct. It's extremely complicated, no normal or new player will ever be able to figure it out unless STUDIED and RESEARCHED let alone trying to execute it for the first time alone, let alone even understanding it. I "LOL" so hard due to the fact that there literally is a Guid or Instruction manual on how to execute a BR. Shouldn't that say a lot within itself? I discovered SC out accidentally by WSing a couple seconds after a party member WSed... how much more simple, easy, and efficient can you get? Later finding out that a SC can do 1/3 1/2 100%, 150% and or 200% of the secondly used WS.

FF11 Skill Chain System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg43tGHVmDo

FF14 BR Sytem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llfFDu10rds

[Griss]

You sir are wrong. BR being more flexible and less complicated than a SC? Watch these two videos and then tell me how you stand correct. It's extremely complicated, no normal or new player will ever be able to figure it out unless STUDIED and RESEARCHED let alone trying to execute it for the first time alone, let alone even understanding it. I "LOL" so hard due to the fact that there literally is a Guid or Instruction manual on how to execute a BR. Shouldn't that say a lot within itself? I discovered SC out accidentally by WSing a couple seconds after a party member WSed... how much more simple, easy, and efficient can you get? Later finding out that a SC can do 1/3 1/2 100%, 150% and or 200% of the secondly used WS.

FF11 Skill Chain System
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jg43tGHVmDo

FF14 BR Sytem
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llfFDu10rds

Hmm.. let me re-read my post, Yep i said jack all about complication and ease of use.

Then again how complicated is hitting shift+# and g? well heck its about as complicated as timing weapon skills and a spell cast to cause a sc+mb was.

[DurtiMonkeyToe]

Sorry, I disagree with the section of the community that BRs should go. I find them just as easy and useful as skillchains, and from my FFXI days, Skill chains didn't seem all that useful to begin with and in 9/10 parties that I was in, skill chains were done by accident and not design.

Now, admittedly, I didn't play FFXI endgame extensively so I don't know how useful they got at that level.

On the contrary, I find BRs very useful in FFXIV, especially when fighting NMs and our Linkshell has little trouble executing them.

[syntaxlies]

I would like BR more if there was some mystery, like trying different combinatins to unlock different effects and stuff. Have hundreds of different effects that can be done through any number of combinations.

Have your standard formula WS+WS+MS then add WS+WS you get your +damage and, oh wait, the mob is blinded awesome.

It would make doing them more fun cause you'd be finding out new things all them time.

[Zenaku]

Doing the BR the right way the mage can pull out 1.1k DMG on the Boar NM at 36 and each DD can pull out more then 500Dmg with buff and so on. So yes if you do the BR right and in the right order you be doing hell of dmg so don't say the system is not working you guys just don't know how to use it right.

BR are boring? hell yes
Do they work how they should? Yes if you do them right.

What i do is "DD"Normal attack DD" Normal attack + Mage normal attack. "You should see two icon staff and a sword. Then follow by DD"WS" DD"WS" Mage "spell" Like fire,water and many other type of spell that does great DMG.

There other one that give the mob TP down and so on but the only one i can't seem to make work is the one that give Buff to the party maybe it work and there no icon for it lol.


Do i was skillchain from FFXI? Hell yes as long as they stay with the system with BR.

I would also like to see Two mage casting a very power spell to become 1 in a Skillchain/br type thing.

[Molly_Millions]

Doing the BR the right way the mage can pull out 1.1k DMG on the Boar NM at 36 and each DD can pull out more then 500Dmg with buff and so on. So yes if you do the BR right and in the right order you be doing hell of dmg so don't say the system is not working you guys just don't know how to use it right.

This is true and is one reason I would NOT like to see more complexity added to BRs. Most people still can't get them right with only a handful of possible combinations instead opting to add any random skill they want to the BR, which of course only works like 10% of the time.

[Alcide]

Nope, they didn't explain everything I said in my previouse post, I found out most of the things by testing myself

[syntaxlies]

Nope, they didn't explain everything I said in my previouse post, I found out most of the things by testing myself

Im really sorry but i have to call BS. How did you find out the effects by testing it your self. You were able to gauge the mobs TP lvl to see that WS were costing more, you also checked the mobs MP and figured out that the icon was DEF down just by looking at it. It must have taken you a long time to figure out all these things on your own that could have been easily read on lodestone anytime. If this is true i fell bad for you that you spent so much time figuring this out when the information was there the whole time.

[Alcide]

Im really sorry but i have to call BS. How did you find out the effects by testing it your self. You were able to gauge the mobs TP lvl to see that WS were costing more, you also checked the mobs MP and figured out that the icon was DEF down just by looking at it. It must have taken you a long time to figure out all these things on your own that could have been easily read on lodestone anytime. If this is true i fell bad for you that you spent so much time figuring this out when the information was there the whole time.

I said most of the things... before being so rude take some time to read carefully.

Note that if you put the skills in a certain order you can add more than one debuff on the mob with a single BR.

Also there are some rules on the boost damage BR:
1- in order to get the max boost you can't put two skills of the same class next to each other: Moonrise>Punture>Moonrise daes A LOT more damage than Moonrise>Moonrise>Puncture.
2- If you change type of BR in the middle of the queue the damage boost stops: Moonrise>Puncture>Pummel>Moonrise the boost stops at Puncture, because the BR is boost damage typ at Moonrise>Punture and TP down type at Pummel>Moonrise.
Moonrise>Puncure>Moonrise>Twisting Vice(performed by an archer) the boost stops at Puncture, because Moonrise>Twisting done by an archer turn the BR into a class affinity type.
3- if you have good timing and good communication (aka voice chat) you can join the BR even if you don't queue you're skill: when the BR is released there's a short window where every skill performed is boosted. This means that the healer can join the BR by throwing a nuke at the right time and also that those opening the BR can throw in another WS at the end doing really massive damage (usually it's lancers or archers since they can build TP quite quickly)

This is what I found out testing with LS mates, obviousely I read the rest on the lodestone >.> as anyone can, but the point of my post was that not everyone has read that guide and not everyone tested the rest, so the BR is still unknown to the majority of the people I played with in pick up groups.

[syntaxlies]

The word "most" is what threw me off cause these are three little things and i wouldn't consider them "most" of the info about BR. The info on lodestone is enough to have any noob participating in BR. Also i challenge your 3rd point.

I said most of the things... before being so rude take some time to read carefully.



This is what I found out testing with LS mates, obviousely I read the rest on the lodestone >.> as anyone can, but the point of my post was that not everyone has read that guide and not everyone tested the rest, so the BR is still unknown to the majority of the people I played with in pick up groups.