Community misconceptions in regards to Atma

[Gelesto]

You are really oblivious to what I'm pointing out with the video. If a coin lands on heads 10, 20, 40, 80, 160, 220, 440, 880, 1720 times over does not mean it is more or less likely to land on tails. You're grabbing at straws with my point, saying I'm comparing it to a scripted event and now making assumptions about my tone over the internet. Such good debating skills.

I'm sorry but you realise that the video you posted was always going to be head because the game developers programmed it that way
The Atma are not scripted to never drop are you oblivious to this point?

[darkstarpoet1]

I'm sorry but you realise that the video you posted was always going to be head because the game developers programmed it that way
The Atma are not scripted to never drop are you oblivious to this point?

they realize it. they just want to log in and it's handed to them. i'm glad it's done with grind involved. the only thing i don't think should have been done is low level fates as part of it. if it were only lvl40 and above fates i would be fine with the entire quest.

[silentwindfr]

they realize it. they just want to log in and it's handed to them. i'm glad it's done with grind involved. the only thing i don't think should have been done is low level fates as part of it. if it were only lvl40 and above fates i would be fine with the entire quest.

and that exactly what did say the op, simply you don't read. you thinking: "they don't like grind, they want it handed" no is not because we found grind boring that we want it be handed.
we are in 2014... we have acces to new technologie that allows much more that was possible at while wow, everquest, FF11 even... it's time maybe to evolve. and stop to simply copy paste stuff from the past.

Yoshida did say that he was looking was coming and was wanting to make the game evolve. exept this 2.2 is not an evolution, is the inverse, we are going back. we need to find more funny, more challenging way to get stuff... and for god sake... more activity! Raid and pvp, can't be the only activity possible in the game... and i don't even consider Grind like an activity!
because if you want to log in game for simulate a work at the chain free to you. we log in the game...for have fun! grind and farm are not fun!

[SeekerScorpio]

and that exactly what did say the op, simply you don't read. you thinking: "they don't like grind, they want it handed" no is not because we found grind boring that we want it be handed.
we are in 2014... we have acces to new technologie that allows much more that was possible at while wow, everquest, FF11 even... it's time maybe to evolve. and stop to simply copy paste stuff from the past.

How do you think he got his high post count? With flame baiting and disregarding every post in the thread he's trolling in.

Hooked on Phonics is OverPowered (@ mr 3k).

[darkstarpoet1]

How do you think he got his high post count? With flame baiting and disregarding every post in the thread he's trolling in.

Hooked on Phonics is OverPowered (@ mr 3k).

i got my high post count by being an active member of the forums for the entire 3 years the game has been out.

all i am saying is that many people, including myself, asked for a grind to be added back into the game because EVERYTHING else was made for another type of player. now that one thing in this entire game is added that pleases those of us that asked for it is put in game that isn't even for the best piece of gear in game people want to cry like a bunch of 5 year old school girls.

are there parts of the quest regarding atmas i would like to see changed?
yes, i would love to see the low level fates not be involved at all and see it only lvl40 and above fates.

is this the exact type of grind i asked for when i asked for the game to have some grind?
no, but as i did ask for grinding to be added back in some way i'll take what i can get.

do i want the quest to stay exactly like it is from now on?
no, i think it should have the drop rates increased and myth lowered later on, but i do not feel like it should be done yet. they should not ease things until the following patch.

i just think when something new comes out it should be directed towards the highly dedicated to work towards. this type of content gives players, like myself, something we can do each day after a patch is put in and if it's done well like this past patch was we will not be out of things to do before the next patch comes out. once the next patch comes out make the current and previous content easier to allow those behind the chance to catch up and complete the previous content they were either unable(titan ex) or unwilling to put the time into(atma). this method gives players of all time allowances, skill levels, and dedication a chance to down all content in due time. sure it may not be when the patch first comes out for everyone, but it does allow them to complete it all eventually.

if you find that mentality a troll then you really need to look into the meaning of trolling.

[ispano]

i got my high post count by being an active member of the forums for the entire 3 years the game has been out. all i am saying is that many people, including myself, asked for a grind to be added back into the game because EVERYTHING else was made for another type of player. now that one thing in this entire game is added that pleases those of us that asked for it is put in game that isn't even for the best piece of gear in game people want to cry like a bunch of 5 year old school girls.

Yup, I didn't join the forums as early, but I remember reading things from you before I did.

[darkstarpoet1]

Yup, I didn't join the forums as early, but I remember reading things from you before I did.

yes, and you have to remember back then there was no post limit, you had roikken/belgainrofl/jennestasia on the forums starting threads to cause fights, and back then the community was nowhere near as caustic as it is today. it was very easy to sit in one thread and talk to the same few people for a long time back and forth even if they didn't agree with you because it wasn't insta attack and people was more willing to look at all sides of thinking.

[Rhysati]

I'm sorry but you realise that the video you posted was always going to be head because the game developers programmed it that way
The Atma are not scripted to never drop are you oblivious to this point?

No, you're the one that is oblivious. You've been told multiple times now that the video itself wasn't the point...it was the thing that the video was making fun of.

Statistically speaking if you have a 50% chance of getting an item, you may NEVER get one.

In the case of a coin, if I flip a coin 3 times in a row and they all come up Tails...what's the chance of the next one being heads? 50%(Well, roughly anyway.)
If I flip that coin 99 times and they all come up tails...what's the chance of the next one being heads? 50%

Every single time you get a roll, the RNG value needed doesn't change. So if you have a 1% chance of getting an item, you will continue to have a 1% chance on every single roll. Thus, you may never actually get it.