I dont care about vocal minority it or wanting to have things handed on a silver plate that, all I care about is that I spent two entire weeks doing FATEs at Moraby. Before I didnt mind FATE and I even defended the concept in-game before... now I hate them. It's OK to make us *aham* "work" for an upgrade to our relics, but I'm quite sure there were better ways to put us to grind. The first relic quests were OK, kill the primals, fight for it. Many people still have trouble with Titan (both Hm and Ex...), so it's not like it was handed to people for free before. Now it's just a matter of luck, you can get your scale on the first try (happened to me) or spend an absurd amount of time until you get the next (me again). For 6 years I played LIneage2, one of the most grindy games ever, where to get your third class change you had to get 700 quest items from mobs, I'm a very patient person, I like to take my time doing things in game - unless it's raiding, I really dont rush with things. I don't even speed run dungeons. But, really, this atma quest is silly and not really worthy it (yet).