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  1. #11
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    Gelesto T'ki
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    People who enjoy the Atma grind are the vocal minority. Spend 5 minutes talking to people in game and you'd see that
    people who dont like something - They speak up
    people who like something - don't speak up because they are pleased with what there is and don't feel the need to

    person A " Oh i don't like this porridge its too hot"
    person B " " just eats the porridge because they like it
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  2. #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    People who enjoy the Atma grind are the vocal minority. Spend 5 minutes talking to people in game and you'd see that
    As someone else stated, they're not vocal at all. How many threads do you see stating they like it? None or hardly any.

    The largest group are indifferent and don't care either way. I'm one of them.
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  3. #13
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    Atemi'a Arecis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    As someone else stated, they're not vocal at all. How many threads do you see stating they like it? None or hardly any.

    The largest group are indifferent and don't care either way. I'm one of them.
    You realize you're agreeing with him, right?

    LOL.
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  4. #14
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    Adahna Serafi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    As someone else stated, they're not vocal at all. How many threads do you see stating they like it? None or hardly any.

    The largest group are indifferent and don't care either way. I'm one of them.
    You are proving my point. There are no Atma threads without people saying it's fine as is.
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  5. #15
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    You are proving my point. There are no Atma threads without people saying it's fine as is.
    There is none, because they don't care. Simple as that.

    Edit:
    The only thing I hate about ATMAs is the fact that it's tied with boring FATEs. No creativity at all.

    I would welcome any RNG as long as they're reasonable if they're not tied with FATEs.
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  6. #16
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    The real problem is that putting atma into fate grinding seems like an afterthought, as if SE was going to implement atma and forgot til the night before launch so they threw it in real fast with low chances of success and just shrugged.

    I would love a system that took time so the Animus isn't a ridiculously easy to get as the zeniths but fate grinding is such poor game design. They could have added a new form of endgame to get it, they could have put it in dungeons, they could have given them as rewards for certain leves/quests or a million other ways.

    But they rely so much on fates and that is the biggest development flaw in ffxiv thus far.
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  7. #17
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    Yvaine Isaulde
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    But they rely so much on fates and that is the biggest development flaw in ffxiv thus far.
    100% agree on this. Heck, even the seasonal events are tied with FATEs. That's how creative SE is when it comes to things like this.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by BloodPact View Post
    You realize you're agreeing with him, right?

    LOL.
    No threads = not vocal. No I am not.
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  9. #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    You are proving my point. There are no Atma threads without people saying it's fine as is.
    No, you said people who like it are a vocal minority, which has been explained to be false. Also explained to you, from this person as well, is most people likely don't care, and THOSE people would be the majority, not you.
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  10. #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by AmyNeudaiz View Post
    You are proving my point. There are no Atma threads without people saying it's fine as is.
    Because they don't feel the need to speak up? Thus my point that they are not vocal at all?

    You really think people that like it will go out of their way to post about it? No. They're busy enjoying the game.
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