DPS ignoring hate/threat/aggro

[Astralos]

My biggest problem when it comes to this are the healers who keep healing the problematic damage-dealers. Most of the time I ask them not to heal the damage-dealers when they do that, and to let them die, they reply with something like, "ugh, can we just get through this dungeon?" and keep on healing. At that point I just tell them they need to find another tank, and leave the duty.

It was like that in FFXI too, I've noticed - this kind of "it's fine to suffer through anything as long as you get the job done" mentality. It's poison.

[Wintersandman]

My biggest problem when it comes to this are the healers who keep healing the problematic damage-dealers. Most of the time I ask them not to heal the damage-dealers when they do that, and to let them die, they reply with something like, "ugh, can we just get through this dungeon?" and keep on healing. At that point I just tell them they need to find another tank, and leave the duty.

It was like that in FFXI too, I've noticed - this kind of "it's fine to suffer through anything as long as you get the job done" mentality. It's poison.

I was in Tam Tara and I had a lancer who was pulling. After awhile I stopped healing him but the tank would run to his rescue. Someone made a comment about how I was a nice healer. I then responded "I know but I was going to let him die but then the Tank saved him". Just after that the lancer chilled out and was more cautious. Sometimes just having a conversation will scare people.

[Rextab]

I was in Tam Tara and I had a lancer who was pulling. After awhile I stopped healing him but the tank would run to his rescue. Someone made a comment about how I was a nice healer. I then responded "I know but I was going to let him die but then the Tank saved him". Just after that the lancer chilled out and was more cautious. Sometimes just having a conversation will scare people.

he saved him because the "hes a crap tank" comments would start to fly if he didnt do his "job" despite it being the lancer's fault for being a pain.

[Wintersandman]

he saved him because the "hes a crap tank" comments would start to fly if he didnt do his "job" despite it being the lancer's fault for being a pain.

I would have defended the tank in a heart beat so would the archer. The Archer was the one who said I was being a nice healer.

[Wintersandman]

he saved him because the "hes a crap tank" comments would start to fly if he didnt do his "job" despite it being the lancer's fault for being a pain.

I think it is my tanking mentality but I am very aware of everything going on in the group. While leveling my lancer I could tell that someone was heavy thrust spamming. That is all he was doing. By playing each class every move becomes identifiable. I call out the bad by offering advice and then other people start to notice it. A good friend who was dreading tanking decided to do Sastasha as a Gladiator. The healer was medica spamming by that I mean as soon as any dps or himself took 20 damage he cast medica. Of course my buddy could barely hold threat against that. Of course the healer said he was doing nothing wrong. I corrected him by calling him out and told him straight up this is his problem.

To be continued