DPS ignoring hate/threat/aggro

[kensatsu]

GuardianX i think he is doing two stuff in the same time , auto attack when is eating ?

[Illya]

It was probably a bot. There are a lot of tank bots in low level dungeons.

[JeniLinsky]

I was having an off day today, and got Thingie Manor in the Duty Roulette. The Monk in the party kept running ahead of me, and bringing patrols back to where I was just barely keeping the pull I'd made together and not letting the healer take any aggro. I actually stopped in the hallway and said, "Look, I'm not a good enough tank for what you're doing here, please stop."

The monk laughed and said the healer could heal through it.

It was not the best experience I've had in a dungeon.

[Rextab]

i had a black mage do that yesterday for my first time in Brayflox HM. i was learning the instance. i told him as such. im a good tank and i held it all together...but i should have let him die. i hate players like that. hate. i know brayflox is used for farming tomes, but that's not what i was there for. i was there to unlock it for the roulette. i was learning the instance. he just wouldn't listen and always sounded like a jerk in being proud he was acting the way he was after everyone asked him not to.

[Spearit]

You just need to educate your dps. When i play tank i always put number. If you aggro 2 before 1 i take it back. If you do it again, that mean you can deal with it and if you can't you char die that's all. I used to it in amdapor (the first one) and i had no problems with dps. If they flame i just tell them what happen and if they do it again it's their problem not mine
For the record i main dps and when i'm taking a mob, i now i can kill it alone. If you aggro everything and can quit or deal with it then you don't know how to play your job.

[Rextab]

i had a blackmage do this the other day. he was really frustrating myself and the healer. he wouldnt quit being a jerk. even the other dps was pissed. the healer and i finally just both left and told him to enjoy going back to the long queue and thanks for the ruined the group.
we contemplated doing it again to this guy, but i really needed blayfox completed. i dont mind mass pulling when i know the instance. ive gotta know whats coming, best way to manage resources for the pulls, what cooldowns to use and when, etc. first time in a new place that is just a stupid way to do it. he just wanted to be a jerk...plain and simple. oddly this seems to always fall on dps. healers and tanks dont generally have the attitude. they just want a calm steady progression instance...usually.

[Sacred-Oblivion]

I was thinking of posting this in the DPS forum, but I thought I might get more civilized answers here.
I stopped playing a few months ago. I got up to basically end game and ceased playing. I have now come back with the PS4 version and am mostly enjoying the game again.
I have noticed, DPS especially, are horrible in the fact they seem to want to abuse the tanks. They ignore threat.
I have come across, at very least one dundeon a day, where they will just pull with AOEs, or attack mobs before me, don't focus fire at all, and then blame the tank (me) that I cannot control the mobs?
I have a pretty good rotation. I use Flash. I use my AoE, I pull with lob and flash immediately to get aggro. etc. but this game is designed to have a fine line in hate generation. you have to let the tank get it first. then they complain?

Holding mobs and mitigating damage is only one part of being a successful tank. The other part (and arguably equally important) is keeping the DPS obedient and submissive. Always make sure you take a moment to establish dominance before the first pull whenever you're partying with DPS that you don't know. Otherwise, you risk running into problems where they'll start doing things on their own. When dominance is successfully established they'll let you lead, make all the pulls, and focus-fire on your marked targets. This really needs to be written into all the tanking guides too, but I can understand why people would be hesitant to include it.

[Isurei]

honestly , its pretty simple. be the one the mark targets at the beginning, and start attacking in order. if they choose to not listen, then just let them die. as a tank , your main focus is to prevent the healer from dying. if the dps complains just them know thats how this run will go and if they wanna leave its fine. you will get in another dun in less than 5mins while they are going to wait another 45 min or so. you have the most power in any run. you just dont know it yet.

[Duuude007]

The dps spike in new gear is significant, and with it, tanks have experienced a newfound difficulty to maintain hate.

Upgrade your weapon, upgrade it fast. It will help you the most.

Also: If you decide to go the Atma/Animus route, be sure to prioritize strength over other stats in your books.

[Synestr]

My main is PLD, I love it. My DPS jobs are BLM and DRG and BRD. I love being in a group with a good tank and pushing the limit. That's just it though, push the limit, not exceed it. Maybe those of us that play as tanks understand that better. Also when we do FC runs we play the game, take hate from the tank. Kind of a training thing, develop take back skill or whatever.

When I enter DF groups, I do let them know straight up, "You yank it, you tank it". Once we get an idea as to how we work together then I let em know if they can let loose or not. But letting them know first hand that "I will let you die" let's em know not to fekk around ^^

Syn