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    Bluetaro's Avatar
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    Leon Lamperouge
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    Allow us to purchase or rent retainers with gil

    As an extra option this may interest players. Why not allow us to rent extra retainers with a weekly or monthly gil fee as an added option vs the $2 USD per retainer?
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    coz se wants dat money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luxx View Post
    coz se wants dat money.
    Because the extra storage literally makes you use more capacity on the servers. That means more hardware which costs money. Big surprise that you have to pay for it. -_-
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    I'zual Neverdark
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    because people are literally begging to throw more money at SE.

    It's a subscription game, I should not have to pay more for content (yes retainers are content.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Everdark View Post
    because people are literally begging to throw more money at SE.

    It's a subscription game, I should not have to pay more for content (yes retainers are content.)
    Some people literally did. So /sarcasm on that one.

    Also, you don't HAVE to do anything. You can completely ignore this for the entirety of the game to no ill effect. You don't need more selling slots, or more inventory, or another set of ventures per day. Those are all extra and completely unnecessary. If you are out of inventory you really need to re-evaluate what kind of crap you keep storing.
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    Or why not offer the option to to "swap" one of your (40 on standard sub) additional characters for a pair of retainers? It will be less server storage and resources demanding than running an alt as a "mule" with 2 retainers anyway and you could have anything between 40 characters with no additional retainers down to 20 characters with two extra retainers each. You're already paying for those including the additional storage so it would be only fair (and you'd actually use LESS storage this way as it would not use the additional main inventory, armory and airmore storage like on extra characters). If this wouldn't be a "good" deal for SE (in term of saving the server capacity, not in terms milking players for more money) I don't know what else would. If they'd offer this only to standard subs (or maybe for those who pay more than 1 month at a time) it would be incentive for many players to switch from Entry sub or to pay more months in advance - either way more money in the bank for SE.
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    Last edited by HEC; 04-18-2014 at 12:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Because the extra storage literally makes you use more capacity on the servers. That means more hardware which costs money. Big surprise that you have to pay for it. -_-
    They have made plenty for the extra server space, they have tons more subscribers than they anticipated, and they are trying to run a game with the server space they anticipated they would need. They have tried and tried to "fix" the issue without doing what is needed and paying for more servers. Why don't we have personal housing, why is the furniture limit for FC housing so low, because they don't have the server space. Remember just a couple weeks back when 2.2 released, instead of adding more instance servers to reduce ques, they crammed them all together giving us horrendous lag for a week. Selling retainers is just a way for SE to make the players pay for what every other subscription based game calls a business expense.
    My thoughts of what goes on in the XIV developer meetings:

    Programmer: Yoshi we need to pay for more servers, the game is growing more unstable by the day, we are doing everything we can to keep the players from noticing it.
    Yoshi: Silence subordinate, servers cost money. You know what else costs money? Bracelets, rings, watches, I mean come on, I don't even have on thumb rings today, how can we have more servers if I don't have thumb rings?!!?
    Programmer: But sir, this isn't just any game this is Final Fantasy, it is our responsibility to deliver a game worthy of the title!
    Yoshi: Fool, remember who you are talking to! I am Yoshi, I am Final Fantasy! Mwa ha ha, mwa haha mwa haha!
    At this point Yoshi transforms into Godzilla and starts to terrorize the city until for some reason Ferris Bueller is called in to stop him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Some people literally did. So /sarcasm on that one.

    Also, you don't HAVE to do anything. You can completely ignore this for the entirety of the game to no ill effect. You don't need more selling slots, or more inventory, or another set of ventures per day. Those are all extra and completely unnecessary. If you are out of inventory you really need to re-evaluate what kind of crap you keep storing.
    The issue comes with the new venture system and the fact that players who pay for the additional retainers get a slight advantage on the market board over others. Personally I have to agree with other people, we pay a subscription fee each month for server maintenance and updates to the game. Charging additional money for something like this is just silly.

    It doesn't break the game for me personally because what can you buy with gil anyways right now? I still don't agree with the idea and think that there should be a precedence set that this kind of thing isn't ok. It's one thing for them to sell people vanity crap like mounts or Fantasia, it's another to sell people things that give them an advantage (even if it's only a slight one). If they are doing something like this already, what kind of other additional services are we going to see that give players advantages in the future?
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    Last edited by DoctorPepper; 04-18-2014 at 12:49 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiggy View Post
    Some people literally did. So /sarcasm on that one.

    Also, you don't HAVE to do anything. You can completely ignore this for the entirety of the game to no ill effect. You don't need more selling slots, or more inventory, or another set of ventures per day. Those are all extra and completely unnecessary. If you are out of inventory you really need to re-evaluate what kind of crap you keep storing.
    This is why I am not too mad about it, honestly I was hoping it would be a one time fee for the character you purchase extra retainers. But than there is a flaw in that logic, I can make 8 characters on each server which that gives me 16 retainers just by using my subscription benefits.

    I wouldnt mind if they made two 15 subscription fees, one where you get 1 character on each server with 2 extra retainers and another with how it is now for 15 dollar subscription.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LordSliver View Post
    This is why I am not too mad about it, honestly I was hoping it would be a one time fee for the character you purchase extra retainers. But than there is a flaw in that logic, I can make 8 characters on each server which that gives me 16 retainers just by using my subscription benefits.

    I wouldnt mind if they made two 15 subscription fees, one where you get 1 character on each server with 2 extra retainers and another with how it is now for 15 dollar subscription.
    Sure, that's somewhat of a flaw but how are those additional characters going to help you when there is no way to transfer items/gil between your own characters aside from having a friend trade it for you? I'm sure they're well aware that if you could transfer items between characters that nobody would pay for this service.
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