Why not Have Echo Give Speed Buff?

[Arkghyom]

My char is too slow, I need this buff!

[Fynlar]

I agree, Titan is supposed to be Hard hence the (hard) part at the end of the title.

Explain Whorleater, Brayflox, etc. then, which are certainly not hard by any means of the word.

[RyuDragnier]

Explain Whorleater, Brayflox, etc. then, which are certainly not hard by any means of the word.

Have yourself and an entire party downgrade to nothing but Darklight and do all 3 dungeons. You'll start seeing where the Hard part comes in. Because for a i70, it's most likely difficult. i90? Please, it's a walk through the park for us.

[Teppie]

You know maybe I should've prefaced with the fact that I'm not personally complaining that I can't progress, I've never had issues with titan or really any end game stuff I've so far hit. Yet, I consistently see others that do, with the echo buff people can still get carried through, and that's fine, but there are people who are genuinely trying to not be carried, another corpse in the pit, yet due to lack of reflexes, or a bad connection they simply can't keep up but they still deserve to enjoy the content just the same as anyone else. I figured that since the HM's and EX's are basically "farm content" now at this point, and getting nerfed for the casual, slower adopters anyways, that it really couldn't hurt to give an extra boost to speed so those "I could've sworn I was out" people turn into "I just barely made it out in time" crowd.

It wouldn't really hurt the people who are inherently good at this content, since there's more challenging stuff to focus on anyways, and it would make those who have been having issues this entire time (from either their fault or others) get a win. I mean you really can't deny that a 50 and 25% boost to attributes isn't already spoonfeeding enough, but while it's in the right direction, it isn't exactly what a lot of groups need. Sometimes I see perfectly fine groups in regards to healing, tanking and DPS, just completely incapable of dodging a plume or landslide. That's where the real problem is, dodging.

[Estellios]

Honestly, I think the boon of the echo buff on titan is that you can get through the easy pre-heart phase very quickly and get to the "real" fight.

It wouldn't suck so bad if we didn't have to get through Titan to do the rest of the extremes that are apparently much more forgiving. None of us in our FC ever want to go back and do Titan EX ever again once we get the last few people through, which is kind of a very bad thing since most of the community is probably in the same boat now that the primal weapons aren't top tier anymore. Ifrit is a lot simpler to learn and is actually a lot of fun, it's bizarre.

Hopefully they get rid of him as a requirement for the stuff afterwards.

[Felis]

Instead to give a speed buff to the echo buff, why not a haste potion that give you a speed buff for 3 sec?

[Kirren]

Instead to give a speed buff to the echo buff, why not a haste potion that give you a speed buff for 3 sec?

id say if they made a potion for a sprint like effect should at least be half of or at least the same duration as sprint! personally i think pots in this game are next to useless besides the occasional str/int potions for raid content

[Craiger]

So if you haven't beat Titan EX for example, that makes you a bad player ?

I haven't beat it yet, it haven't been my priority as of now, but I have still tried a lot of times.

If I had only said that, you would assume I suck at dodging or something, but I can't actually remember the last time I was hit by any Aoe by Titan.... I play a DRG who can't use sprint and the fight is a walk in the park for the most parts.

So why haven't I beaten it ? Because this is a multiplayer game.... I have lost count on how many times I've been the only person alive together with the MT.

Sure the damage increase of Echo makes it much better since you get past heart stage much faster and with less casualties, but after that it's chaos most of the time and you wipe seconds later -_-

I'm not saying we should get a movement buff, I'm just pointing out that you can't just look down on everyone that can't make a group from his/hers FC or something.

The problem is that if you have 7 out of 8 elite players in your group, and one bad one. The one bad player could very well make it impossible to complete. Now if this was the case, you would just replace him and hope for someone that can at least dodge, but how often do you find 7 good players in Titan EX ? I never do at least....

[Jinko]

As far as Titan goes, yea a movement boost would make more sense than a stat boost.

[Tygg]

I miss the days when only the top players achieved the top level completions. It gave you something to strive for. Learning your class and the fight mechanics is so much more fun than a gearcheck fight. If the fight is already completable with current mechanics, why change it?