[dev1020] Party system changes. The maximum party size.

[Alothia]

I can understand why they're changing the party size, but that doesn't mean that I have to like it. My linkshell is quite large, and we like to party together. I just wish that they would take into account that there are some groups that DO like to get together in bigger numbers. I'm fine with them giving a small nerf to larger parties, but to change the limit down to 8 and then maybe even 4 is just disappointing.

[TubalaTrommler]

A problem I see with having smaller parties is that you then need a higher concentration of specific job types, namely mages and tanks. Given that gladiators are already fairly scarce at high ranks, and that 90% of DD players do not like to tank, I think that this could be quite a problem.

At the moment, with 15 person battles, you only need one tank for most things. If the max size was 8 you then need two tanks to have two groups run, and if you do not have enough then 7 people will miss out on the activity.

They should make an alliance two parties of 8, and have content difficulty scale based on number of people.

[Fleur]

Ditto what Alothia said (and hi, my large linkshell's boss lady!). When I do leves a 3-4 person group is what I wind up in if am grouping with either a) random people at the camp, or b) people from my very small linkshell. But my large linkshell has a bunch of people in my rank range, and to be honest even with the current 8-man "optimal" limit I hesitate to try and join them as there are just so many of us and I don't want to horn in and mess up the SP.

And that is a good point TubalaTrommler. There seems to be no shortage of mages, IMHO -- I see 'em everywhere and am rarely in a party without another one besides myself. If you need 1 mage in a party of 4, that is doable as I am sure that at least 25% of the battlers are mages. But I am quite often in a party that is lacking a gladiator or decent tank, even in larger parties. We can usually manage fine without a proper tank, but I suppose that is just part of the way the battle system is set up now.

[Kurokikaze]

Um to the person that said that they would be limited to how many leve-links you could have and essentially reduce you SP gains...

You are CLEARLY not aware that the cap on level links is three. 1 person starts the leve and 3 others link. That is the cap, there are NO further bonus to SP that can be made besides using Aspect.

No you cannot argue with me on this. It has been tested - it is fact.

[arlee]

Um to the person that said that they would be limited to how many leve-links you could have and essentially reduce you SP gains...

You are CLEARLY not aware that the cap on level links is three. 1 person starts the leve and 3 others link. That is the cap, there are NO further bonus to SP that can be made besides using Aspect.

No you cannot argue with me on this. It has been tested - it is fact.

listen to this man, what he said /\

[God]

As for the OMG moar people = moar SP! you realize that there is a max link you can do right? you and 10 people linking the same leve is not gonna net you more sp than say a 5 link. more people doesn;t = more sp. you just gotta play smart, meaning pick the right leves to link and GA buff

10 people WILL net more SP then 5 because you can do 3 runs at max links instead of 1 and a half.

Um to the person that said that they would be limited to how many leve-links you could have and essentially reduce you SP gains...

You are CLEARLY not aware that the cap on level links is three. 1 person starts the leve and 3 others link. That is the cap, there are NO further bonus to SP that can be made besides using Aspect.

No you cannot argue with me on this. It has been tested - it is fact.

You do realize that reducing the size of the party means the chances the party all has the same amount of leves to achive max links rarely happens now. assuming theres no static group.

So great I love doing devlets at broken water cause only one of the 6 people or 8 people who whatever small size group you go with don't have enough to link. Super.

Going with 15 assures that you can do multipul runs of the good ones and blast through the crappy ones at a decent pace.

Right?

Leves are random people are random not everyone saves their leves for redoing every reset nor do they get offered the same leves every reset.

It was much more enjoyable doing 3-4 runs of dunesfolk than burning all the good leves once then twiddling your thumbs not having any leves to do until next reset.

[Feldt]

1 person starts the leve and 3 others link. That is the cap, there are NO further bonus to SP that can be made besides using Aspect.

No you cannot argue with me on this. It has been tested - it is fact.

Woah O.o i didn't knew there was a cap for leave link O.o i usually see lots of ppl linking for max. Today i saw like 5 links on one leave.

[Abriael]

Woah O.o i didn't knew there was a cap for leave link O.o i usually see lots of ppl linking for max. Today i saw like 5 links on one leave.

Well, as far as I am aware, if you don't take part to the leve link, you don't get the bonus. So the two additional ones simply linked as well because, even if they weren't adding up to the bonus, they didn't want to be left out from it.

(or they simply didn't coordinate beforehand).

[Abriael]

I'm fine with 4 and 8. They seem two easily manageable numbers both balancing-wise and from the perspective of making a group.

In any case the most fun I ever had (PVE-wise) in any MMORPG were with 6-men dungeons. 4 and 8 are quite near to that number, so the mechanics shouldn't be too different.

They didn't exclude bigger groups anyway.
Yoshida said that they just want to get all the content in line for smaller parties, and then move to bigger ones.

[Feldt]

Yoshida said that they just want to get all the content in line for smaller parties, and then move to bigger ones.

Well... i don't mind it that way, anyway they need to somehow bring con... um stuff to the game (CONTENT = In my Definition is Story Line and Story Quests.

All mobs and stuff added like new dungeons etc. aren't content for me) and doing storyline with like 4 ppl would be reasonable idea ^^ Anyway i won't judge etc. I just want to see it how it plays on my own eyes then i can get my opinion on that

PS: Damn I'm really tired i should get some sleep =_=