[dev1020] Party system changes. The maximum party size.

[Colino]

As long as we never see those 15 man rape squad SP party again I will be more than happy.

Completely agreed. We also won't have to spend insane amounts of time waiting to get to 15 because the content requires it. I think 8 man parties are fine. Easier to group, easier to manage and just more fun than the insane 15 person zergfests where you barely have time to pull your weapon out.

[God]

Completely agreed. We also won't have to spend insane amounts of time waiting to get to 15 because the content requires it. I think 8 man parties are fine. Easier to group, easier to manage and just more fun than the insane 15 person zergfests where you barely have time to pull your weapon out.

Stop with the retarded comments nothing ever stopped you from partying with under 15 people. 15 is/was the max NOT the required. Want a 3-4-8 man group THEN WHY NOT JUST MAKE ONE.

8 people means more crap leves that dont have enough links to make them worth while. Simple fact is More people ment FASTER SP.

[Colino]

8 people means more crap leves that dont have enough links to make them worth while. Simple fact is More people ment FASTER SP.

You do realize that's the whole point of changing the party limit right?

[God]

You do realize that's the whole point of changing the party limit right?

You do realize this is why players whom have this affect them most are upset right?

Nothing stopped people from only forming parties of 6 so they can get slower SP. Hell want a 'challange' like everyone bitches about larger parties; up the stars to 5 and go to town with your smaller group.

[Sonic_the_Hedgehog]

I like the idea of 4 man parties, it's seems very Final Fantasy-ish. Also nice signature Feldt

[Frebaut]

The problem with going to 6 people and doing a 5 star run is you can't pass it. The mobs defense is so high and they hit so hard theirs no challenge because you will die. As of now either the mobs are to easy or they wipe you with one AoE. Theirs no in between.

[Zhinse]

I like this discussion!

I am in favor of the lower party count and low population content. It should be able to get us through these tough times right now and 8 years from now when the game is getting older. I find Low man battles a lot more fun too.

[Alothia]

I can understand why they're changing the party size, but that doesn't mean that I have to like it. My linkshell is quite large, and we like to party together. I just wish that they would take into account that there are some groups that DO like to get together in bigger numbers. I'm fine with them giving a small nerf to larger parties, but to change the limit down to 8 and then maybe even 4 is just disappointing.

[TubalaTrommler]

A problem I see with having smaller parties is that you then need a higher concentration of specific job types, namely mages and tanks. Given that gladiators are already fairly scarce at high ranks, and that 90% of DD players do not like to tank, I think that this could be quite a problem.

At the moment, with 15 person battles, you only need one tank for most things. If the max size was 8 you then need two tanks to have two groups run, and if you do not have enough then 7 people will miss out on the activity.

They should make an alliance two parties of 8, and have content difficulty scale based on number of people.

[Fleur]

Ditto what Alothia said (and hi, my large linkshell's boss lady!). When I do leves a 3-4 person group is what I wind up in if am grouping with either a) random people at the camp, or b) people from my very small linkshell. But my large linkshell has a bunch of people in my rank range, and to be honest even with the current 8-man "optimal" limit I hesitate to try and join them as there are just so many of us and I don't want to horn in and mess up the SP.

And that is a good point TubalaTrommler. There seems to be no shortage of mages, IMHO -- I see 'em everywhere and am rarely in a party without another one besides myself. If you need 1 mage in a party of 4, that is doable as I am sure that at least 25% of the battlers are mages. But I am quite often in a party that is lacking a gladiator or decent tank, even in larger parties. We can usually manage fine without a proper tank, but I suppose that is just part of the way the battle system is set up now.