Implementing both F2P/Sub is also an option

[Killance]

Did you even look the presentation over? Yoshida has an entire slide that basically says F2P isn't out of the question and that he thinks the 2 models can work together. Basically look at Rift/SWTOR/Tera/etc. and you'll see the exact model he's talking about. You can play for free but if you pay a sub you get additional services.

I think it's wonderful that you believe you can tell the future and I encourage you to continue trying but you should at least read the facts first. This is not FFXI and Yoshida also goes over the fact that they need to look at this game in a more modern sense rather than looking at the success of FFXI and trying to copy that.

Because all facts over the internet aren't exaggerated at all.

[Starlord]

Did you even look the presentation over? Yoshida has an entire slide that basically says F2P isn't out of the question and that he thinks the 2 models can work together.

In the presentation/interview, he was basically answering questions of "What do you think about F2P?" Meaning he is giving his opinion on F2P. His opinion is, F2P isn't out of the question, depends if the "money is there" and " If the masses want such a thing".

As of right now, they are making too much money off of P2P and, most people don't want this game to go F2P in terms of how the forums are reacting to it. The forums are also their only source of information of statistics about this.

The end results as of this moment is, P2P is here to stay.

[Pibz]

In the presentation/interview, he was basically answering questions of "What do you think about F2P?" Meaning he is giving his opinion on F2P. His opinion is, F2P isn't out of the question, depends if the "money is there" and " If the masses want such a thing".

As of right now, they are making too much money off of P2P and, most people don't want this game to go F2P in terms of how the forums are reacting to it. The forums are also their only source of information of statistics about this.

The end results as of this moment is, P2P is here to stay.

Basically this, i don't see how so many people fail to understand it.
It's a game developers conference he's there to give a talk/lecture to share his experience/opinions on MMO development, not to give insight into the future payment model of his game..

[DoctorPepper]

Basically this, i don't see how so many people fail to understand it.
It's a game developers conference he's there to give a talk/lecture to share his experience/opinions on MMO development, not to give insight into the future payment model of his game..

I can't agree with this, you're basically saying that people shouldn't worry about the head honcho saying that F2P is not out of the picture and that models where subscriptions and F2P work together are an option for this game.

If Yoshida says it's an option then it's an option they're considering. I'm sorry but last time I checked he calls the shots, not the people who think they can tell the future on these forums. If F2P is a potential option for the future of FFXIV I think it's something worth discussing. Whether you agree or not is really just your opinion but other people seem to be equally concerned. Nobody is failing to understand anything, it's just you guys failing to see why people are concerned, we're all well aware this isn't going to happen any time soon.

[Akiza]

Buy to play with the option to subscribe is a better option then Free to Play that way developers can work on actual content rather than micro transactions. They can make a patch every 3months and have people that b2p the game pay for major updates and the subscribers get them for paying for the sub.

[Delmontyb]

I personally like the subscription model, but I know there are those out there who refuse to play a game with a subscription due to time limitations on their end. For them, paying to play the game when they might have one or two days a month to play wouldn't be good. So I've always wondered if there was a better solution, and I've seen that Dragon Quest did something like that, to where if you weren't subbed, you could play for X amount of time per week etc.

I think something like that might work for those users, but this is a tough issue to really tackle without hard numbers. Now, the following idea has the potential to be riddled with holes, but what if SE offered everyone 24 hours (or some other number) of game time per week for free. You still would need to buy the game, and you should still sub to have that restriction lifted at any point in time. To take this to a ridiculous place, say that time could be bottled up and sold, or bought from other players using in game money. So if you're away for a while you would have game time that's yours that you can sell on the markets, or buy more time on the markets from other players. Players who have the sub, should also fine a way to benefit from this.

Again, there would have to be stipulations in place because there might be all kinds of issues, but with over 2 million registered users, I would find no fault if they were able to jump in and play every now and then.

Just a random and crazy thought.

[Jinko]

If they go F2P I will just go elsewhere.

[Vespar]

Ugh, when will people stop contemplating this? SE chose the method that will work for them to keep this game going and updated, if you don't like paying for it, then play another game. Simple as that.

[Swishytail]

Hypothetically, let's pretend that anyone could buy i100 gear with real money. Now, since you said you make good money, lets pretend that you decide to buy a full set of i100 gear. I decide that I can't afford it and so I decide to get i100 gear by farming tomes over the course of a few weeks. Am I at a disadvantage? Is there content that you can do that I cannot? Does you having i100 on April 3rd alter my ability to play the game and enjoy it? Does me having i100 on June 7th alter your ability to play the game and enjoy it? There already exist players that get different sets of gear at different times, I don't understand how this is any different.

You think there's toxic/elitist attitude now?

Wait until all the Call of Duty rich kids get their parents to buy them a full set of iLvl 100 armor and
they do nothing but spit in your face all day/flaunt/brag about it. I'd rather not play a game where
any 13-year-old with rich parents can do -literally- nothing but swipe a credit card and have everything
at the drop of a hat. That breeds nothing but bad. =/

Ugh, when will people stop contemplating this? SE chose the method that will work for them to keep this game going and updated, if you don't like paying for it, then play another game. Simple as that.

This pretty much sums it up for me. If this game ever took the route of F2P or offering gear/weapons in a cash shop, I'd simply walk away.

[Kilyua]

Please SE, don't kill this game. NO F2P. It will bring nothing good.