Turn 2 in DF

[Krr]

If you can't enrage with two healers your healers are either direly undergeared or have serious problems.

The real problem is that only two classes in the game have reliable silences and you can DF and get neither of them. Making paralyze purgable helps but it doesn't make up for the 2k raid-wide damage and the fact that half the team is probably going to get stunned into a red circle or out of an important survival skill.

[C-croft]

If you can't enrage with two healers your healers are either direly undergeared or have serious problems.

The real problem is that only two classes in the game have reliable silences and you can DF and get neither of them. Making paralyze purgable helps but it doesn't make up for the 2k raid-wide damage and the fact that half the team is probably going to get stunned into a red circle or out of an important survival skill.

Huh? HV isn't really that big of a deal and can be worked through. Provided you get at least the alternating one silenced.

[Allyrion]

The real problem is that only two classes in the game have reliable silences and you can DF and get neither of them.

Selene silencing isn't that bad and monk silence is completely reliable (and you can easily solo-silence everything with it). The latter is obviously a dps loss, but there's nothing unreliable about it(except the player) and can get you through the turn by filling in for one silencer or all.

[Krr]

Selene silencing isn't that bad and monk silence is completely reliable (and you can easily solo-silence everything with it). The latter is obviously a dps loss, but there's nothing unreliable about it(except the player) and can get you through the turn by filling in for one silencer or all.

(Selene continues doing an Embrace animation while you hammer silent dusk)

Forms last what, 15 seconds? I guess that's reliable if you have a halfway decent sense or prediction, since HV is reliably on a 20-30 second timer.

[Bladeglory]

Not sure why everyone is afraid of double SCH. Two Succors may not be as good as two Medicas, but you can also have Sacred Soil at all times, and double Whispering Dawn and alternating Fey Illumination. Plus SCHs have better MP regen, so not having a Bard isn't as much of a problem.