Quote Originally Posted by Karnyboy View Post
In all seriousness though, if you've already beat the content before without echo...why do you care?!?
I thought this was extremely obvious at this point, but beating content once doesn't mean you're completely done with it for a lot of people. There are dozens upon dozens of people that had beaten Coil before the patch to go back in and either get stuff they missed, help some friends, or gear up other classes. This issue is going to be extremely real for them. The entire point of the thread is that people go in, waste time wiping on a fight that you can't really brute force and then fail utterly at it. He's getting at the point that people are using Echo as a crutch, rather than dealing with mechanics or learning how to dodge.

It works both ways, as people who had already beaten the content are already coming back in, trying to use Echo to brute force fights and skip the mechanics and ignore everyone else that either don't know the fight at all yet, don't have awesome gear, or both. Essentially, it is making the content far more difficult than it should be.