Did binding coil turn 1 using the duty finder tonight with the fixed amount of echo activated from the start. We still never beat it. Did about 10 wipes with an ever changing party due to people constantly quiting and being replaced. I don't think the currently planned amounts of echo are going to be enough to see everyone through. Maybe a 100% boosts to stats could see some people catch up on the old raids and extreme primals. For a lot of people, something like Aurum Vale or Pharos Sirius pushes them to the limit. There is a huge gulf in difficulty between those dungeons and the coil raids. Unless you are privileged enough to be in an elite FC, the raids and ex primals still feel like a very distant goal for people relying on random parties.