Leviathan Ex Weapons screw over Paladins & White Mages

[Nukocafe]

This is FFXIV: A Realm Reborn Producer and Director Naoki Yoshida.

• The Tidal Wave Shield will be added as a possible shield reward for The Whorleater (Extreme).
• The Tidal Wave Buckler will be added as a possible shield reward for The Whorleater (Extreme).
• Players that have used a Mirror of the Whorl to upgrade a Wave Shield or Wave Buckler before Patch 2.25 will receive an additional Mirror of the Whorl.

Thank you Yoshida-san!!! 大好きだあああああ！！！！ ♥♥♥

[SongJoohee]

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Except the issue with 2 of the paths they are both rng, and the 3rd takes just as long depending on your coil group.

You can get your Leviathan mirror in 1 run. You can get all 12 Atma in 10 hours. Other players do 100 Leviathans and 100 hours of Atma and get nothing to show for it. Talking of mirror, I know someone on Ragnarok who, joined a Leviathan EX farm, spent the majority of the fight dead, mirror dropped, he rolled on the mirror, and won it. How is that fair? It's not. Just like those who spent 100s of hours attempting to get Atmas for Relic and still don't have all 12 pieces.

Coil is not a viable alternative as it drops only one tome a week, most groups will likely be giving these to DPS so if you're a healer or tank you could be waiting in excess of 8-15 weeks before you even get your first tomestone.

It's very obvious why what was changed in progression in 2.2 was done; to make things take longer to do, to make you pay more months of subscription.

I find it mind-numbing, Yoshida himself has even spoken out against low drop rates in an interview before. He obviously knows the issues with it but implements this crap anyways.

Levi path rewards luck

Atma path rewards luck

Coil path depends on group

[Nadrojj]

Or Paladins can just spend soldiery and get a better shield with less hassle.

http://xivdb.com/?item/7284/Weathered-Noct-Hoplon



http://ffxiv.ariyala.com/

[saber_alter]

What wep does Turn 7 drop? Turn 9 is the new Coil weps. Turn 7 is where you have the chance to get the Unidentified Allagan Tomestone to trade for a weathered wep but that also costs soldiery for tokens and I was under the impression the tomestone wasn't 100%. Even assuming the tomestone IS 100% it still means 8 weeks of work to get everyone 1 wep. This of course assumes your group has access to AND can clear Turn 7. Unless you suck royally at dodging, the gate for Levi access is a lot easier to pass through than the one to reach Turn 7. Producer himself responds to this issue with a very generous solution and still all people can do his complain...unbelievable...

and that tomestone drops always. 100% of the time.

and technically it is four weeks if you have turn 8 down. turn 8 drops them too.

as for what yoshida has said...i'm okay with that.

[SongJoohee]

and that tomestone drops always. 100% of the time.

and technically it is four weeks if you have turn 8 down. turn 8 drops them too.

as for what yoshida has said...i'm okay with that.

Turn 8 does not drop tomestones, only Turn 7 does.

[valho]

What would be cool is if the mirror drop rate was influenced by how many people had the Wave weapon equipped or maybe even in inventory, something like (n+1) * drop rate. Can even put it in the weapon description - "This weapon when used against Leviathian is more likely to extract vital essences upon defeating him...etc, etc"

Actually I like that, and it makes sense too

[Bruiser_Cruiser]

So.... anyone who's either no-lifed Levi EX or either got extremely lucky and got the Mirror drop and upgraded their respective shields already... gets a FREE Mirror?!

Sorry, but what BS is that?!

U appear to have granite for a brain. Other classes get 100% of the stats from 1 item, we need 2 items to get the 100%. Its not fair. Yoshi has already said it wasnt supposed to be that way. Get over urself, people arent just whining to get hand outs. We are just asking for equality.

[saber_alter]

Turn 8 does not drop tomestones, only Turn 7 does.

so it does. i have been wrong before.

guess i'm going to what i usually do when i am given options and gear alts.

[Traek]

Thank you Yoshida-san!!! 大好きだあああああ！！！！ ♥♥♥

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This. Guys this is a thread about PLD/WHM getting royally screwed on their Tidal weapons by requiring two Mirrors. Create a thread to complain about mirror drop rate. The OP was answered, and a good dev solution is being put into place in 2.25. We don't know if drop rates will be changed in the future anyways, this dev response was in direct context of PLD/WHM requiring 2 mirrors.

[Lilianne]

So has there been any posts regarding what will happen to previous shields (i95) that haven't been upgraded? Am I going to have to farm for my shield all over again so I don't have to waste a mirror on it?