PvP is dead

[PlanckZero]

PvP died because the community decided to take advantage of every single cheap tactic they could to wring the most out of the system before SE could fix it.

3/4 pre made stacked teams jumping to avoid damage. Once every other match ended up following that formula I gave up and haven't gone back even after they "fixed" it.

[Astralos]

I tried it, but it got boring very quickly. Most of the people I got paired up with were verbally obnoxious, too.

[Pinworms]

I still haven't unlocked the pvp quest. FF and PVP just doesn't sit right with me.

[Bufkus]

They should have had PVP from the start instead of introducing it in a patch.

That said, the only way to revive PVP now is to introduce some 8v8 battlegrounds. When you make PVP more like a fun sports game instead of a competitive battle where newbies always lose to better players, more people will try it. I think obvious choices like capture the flag would be pretty easy to implement/balance and fun to boot.

[Vahlnir]

I've never been able to get into PvP anything, really, at least not too much. I played RIFT for awhile though and had a blast as a rogue. If they add some sort of large scale objective games I'll probably give it a go.

[Nukocafe]

Wolve's Den summed up in 1 image:


But as others have mentioned I never had interest in PVP to begin with, never bothered unlocking the quest either.
The last FC I was in the leader decided all he wanted to do was PVP, 3 weeks later the FC disbanded.

[prymortal]

Takes forever to find a game. Does anyone even do pvp regularly?

I think even all the old regulars i used to see are waiting for new content as they have already reached the highest level & Got the gear.

The PVP added to this game was wrong in so many ways for a PVE game or even a PVE/PVP game.
If the game was PVP ONLY well it would of had a chance with certain small changes (that is if it was open world pvp, arena, i forget that other one 50vs50/100vs100 hold the spot battlefild type.) all the PVP stuff they added would of been great.
So not many seasoned MMO players will not like it enough to play Or prioritise it over PVE content.

Elder Scrolls Online apparently has the best PVP in MMO history.

I'd like to add a future contender to best PVP in mmo history
Welcome to Black Desert 검은사막: http://massively.joystiq.com/2013/10...-pvp-detailed/
PVP on horseback, was claims of Large scale castle seige 400 vs 400 - Guild alliance pvp., open world pvp.
(yes i know the games in beta & Korea only ATM (eng client & ps4 version tho are in the works apparently) & yes like all mmos mistakes have been made class & race & gender & Balance wise currently.)

[necrosis]

I just hope SE keeps to their word that PvP will not be required to get gear that is better than stuff you get in PvE areas.

[prymortal]

I just hope SE keeps to their word that PvP will not be required to get gear that is better than stuff you get in PvE areas.

They already broke the one about PVP changes not effecting PVE. Shadowbind time on bards is 1 proven example. there are others.

[Buklohn]

I love pvp in games, but this one needs some work running around in circle chasing a healer and getting slept isn't baller. They need to make more counter moves and skills to make it feel more engaging. Besides the best way to get pve players to play pvp is to force them to play, by making pvp the only way to attain a special item for the zodiac upgrade in future patches like the atma grind now, lol.