[DEV] Make instanced/ non instanced events, Class and jobs should have more roles.

[Etienn]

Hello fellow adventurer's and developer's,

I like everyone else have great interest in the raids that are coming, but from what I can understand there will be content that will not satisfy everyone? (IE Casual gamers vs Hardcore gamers).

They should implement some type of challenge that is no different than gaining a relic, for future updates, adding relics to the game would do well also. Remember salvage, enherihjer (probably did not spell that right), and dynamis? We need more hard raid/dungeons like these event that require severe team work, this probably would solve a lot of problems and be safe for casual and hardcore gamer's.

For instance I am approaching becoming a high rank miner, I am in the process of testing out the other DOL jobs in the process of getting to 40+, but when I get my miner to rank 50 that is all!?!?!? why not have requirements and tasks for DOL jobs in raids and events?

I would not mind the developer's making a salvage type event, that is similar to raids, can be casual at times, (you can play at your leisure), but still provide fun and adventure and can be updated via future updates. Lets say there were only specific things certain classes could do in these events....

Example:

Thief (job) needed to unlock doors, steal in stealth mode from certain mobs which only he can do, and manage some type of hate control or pulling.

Miner, needed to break rocks or gather material and have them crafted in the event, say create tools for thief . (locks, keys locked chests, special gates etc).

Same applies to the other DOL jobs, and DOH jobs. Lets say you needed certain classes.jobs to reach certain prerequisites, all of which runs on skill, and time limit of course. Basically a dynamis, salvage, einhernjar type event all in one.


Once you cap certain jobs it gets boring gil gets amassed and that is it, you get bored, I doubt 1.18 has enough to satisfy both types of gamer's. It is just a buffer for what is to come, they game needs more challenging events.


We need roles for all classes besides DOW, and DOW jobs, DOH, and DOL should not be left out.

[danny52844]

thats all fine until we dont bring a theif and need a door unlocked
and what the guy under me said :| i thoguth of it first though

[Dreadnought]

For instance I am approaching becoming a high rank miner, I am in the process of testing out the other DOL jobs in the process of getting to 40+, but when I get my miner to rank 50 that is all!?!?!? why not have requirements and tasks for DOL jobs in raids and events

having a DOL or DOH in an endgame raid with a group of hardcore endgamers would only slow the dungeon crawl down. the average hardcore endgamer doesnt want to be held back by a "class" that cant contribute to healing/buffing the party or damaging/debuffing the mobs.
the DOL and DOH classes would just kinda follow around and wait everytime the group needs to battle something. and just fyi, dungeons are full of battles on top of battles, its the entire point of a dungeon.... to fight mobs for loot/exp.

im all for making crafters and fielders more improtant than most other MMOs, but their lack of direct contribution to killing or healing something/someone is why i completely dissagree (ppfff almost on a moral level) with DOL and DOH being considered "classes"

[Etienn]

yeah it probably would, but they should think of a way to make all classes feel included. If there was a event where something was needed to be done and you had no 45-50+ miner to handle it, whether it be time extended or not, it would add to the adventure.

Like I was told the old team had a different plan for DOL/DOH but things of course did not go well for them. You are looking at it from when yoshi P took over, I think i am still looking at it from the "what we never got but should have been done with DOL/DOH classes". The classes should all have different ways to gain sp/exp it makes no sense to exclude DOL/DOh, it makes no sense to exclude them from quests and game instanced events, they need to revamp the classes, or add a new or special job to them.

I am still waiting for shepherd class to be released.

[Chardrizard]

The last thing the game need is a need of a certain specific class just to do something, it would create long LFP time. Of course i am not against it, it can be for sidequests but i am not feeling it for main content such as dungeons or raids.

[Quoc]

I can just see it now,

Mark - "Sweet! We're almost to the end!"
Fred - "Thank the lord, that boss completely messed me up."
*Locked Door* - "Rank: 25 (Thief) required."
Mark - "Aw crap, who forgot to invite Carlos?!"
Tunis - "-_-"
Mark & Fred - "._."
*Outside the raid*
Carlos - "Guys?!"

[Etienn]

I can just see it now,

Mark - "Sweet! We're almost to the end!"
Fred - "Thank the lord, that boss completely messed me up."
*Locked Door* - "Rank: 25 (Thief) required."
Mark - "Aw crap, who forgot to invite Carlos?!"
Tunis - "-_-"
Mark & Fred - "._."
*Outside the raid*
Carlos - "Guys?!"

Well if anyone is that stupid they deserve that -.-.

But I doubt it would be restricted that low.. I think they need to level come content it is about time.

[Etienn]

The last thing the game need is a need of a certain specific class just to do something, it would create long LFP time. Of course i am not against it, it can be for sidequests but i am not feeling it for main content such as dungeons or raids.

all calsses could do something in an event like this