Not sure how they would fit but....aliens...

[Akoree]

I was totally aware of turn 3 and 4 being that way but I never realized how explicit it was until now, nice catch.

I can't confirm this because I don't have the game in front of me ATM but I'm fairly sure that if you look at their description in the DF you can read that the ship is called Ragnarok too. If the Allagans we're native to an other planet or from Hydaelyn, if they simply left by space-ship or if all of them were stuck into the planet is unknown. (Granted I have not explored Part 2 of Coil, people whom have done so may have gotten answers to some of those questions.)

[saber_alter]

I can't confirm this because I don't have the game in front of me ATM but I'm fairly sure that if you look at their description in the DF you can read that the ship is called Ragnarok too. If the Allagans we're native to an other planet or from Hydaelyn, if they simply left by space-ship or if all of them were stuck into the planet is unknown. (Granted I have not explored Part 2 of Coil, people whom have done so may have gotten answers to some of those questions.)

they are swords, not ships.

The Ragnarok is one of the swords that held dalamud together, and the various locations in side the great labyrinth (like the central drive core) kept it powered so it could retain bahamut's fury.

[Akoree]

they are swords, not ships.

The Ragnarok is one of the swords that held dalamud together, and the various locations in side the great labyrinth (like the central drive core) kept it powered so it could retain bahamut's fury.

Fairly sure that swords with engines can be considered ships.

[saber_alter]

Fairly sure that swords with engines can be considered ships.

not if they are stuck in a planet that doesn't move.

and said swords have no form of propulsion. An engine generates power, the things attached to it cause the acceleration.

[Akoree]

not if they are stuck in a planet that doesn't move.

and said swords have no form of propulsion. An engine generates power, the things attached to it cause the acceleration.

To close this side of the discussion, the Ragnarok is a spaceship as stated in the duty finder description:

At the depth of 1233 yalms, your party comes upon the fragment of Dalamud the Garleans had sought. Its true identity is the Ragnarok, a collossal starship which fell away from the less moon moments before Bhamut burst free of his prison...

[saber_alter]

To close this side of the discussion, the Ragnarok is a spaceship as stated in the duty finder description:

lets not forget that dalamud was in space. dalamud as a whole can be considered one. ragnarok was a part of said starship, one dedicated to keeping a elder primal locked in suspended animation.

unless ragnarok was a abandoned starship allagans used to ferry between the ground and their prison, i don't see why it would be sensical to include a ship in the design of a prison...unless the starship is the prison.

the phrase "starship" seems to be thrown about like a toy.

[C-croft]

lets not forget that dalamud was in space. dalamud as a whole can be considered one. ragnarok was a part of said starship, one dedicated to keeping a elder primal locked in suspended animation.

unless ragnarok was a abandoned starship allagans used to ferry between the ground and their prison, i don't see why it would be sensical to include a ship in the design of a prison...unless the starship is the prison.

the phrase "starship" seems to be thrown about like a toy.

The phrasing of starship appears to be separate from Dalamud, as Ragnarok fell away from Dalamud before Bahamut was able to break free. After watching the closing CS of 1.XX, this could mean the blue 'swords' in Dalamud were actually starships, each one being an individual starship, or one starship with the ability to separate into many pieces. Dalamud was the prison itself created by the starship(s). Until they tell us exactly how Bahamut was captured, we may never know.