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    snakey77's Avatar
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    Scarlet Rayne
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    Brynhildr
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Jinko View Post
    Seeing patterns doesn't mean anything if lag and latency are effecting the timings of the graphical queues and the actual attacks, people still don't seem to understand that a large portion are suffering due to SE's stupid decision to only have 2 datacentres for the whole world. (nice if you live close to one of them though)
    good call simply put the lag and latency players require a stoke of luck or a carry through with this type of content THANKS SE!!!
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    Naomi Langureion
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Cleared Titan EX on PS3 with DF, per 2.2...so i'm with random group each time. Once i clear edit, did it 3 times more to get other weapons I want, then stopped.
    OP, it's not impossible, just really hard. And I play tank, so I had to dodge, tank swap, and pull the egis, fyi.
    Took me few weeks to nail it with random people, just keep practicing, btw, with echo buff now, it's much easier.....
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    Traek Darksoul
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    Sargatanas
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    Marauder Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    Just because you have a group of extremely skilled and overgeared players doesn't make Titan "easy".
    Skilled might be one thing, but I've 1 shot it in PF groups in 2.1 many times. As I said before, there is reasons for the 'skilled' players to have moved on since then and it'd be a different climate now. That doesn't make Titan EX hard, it just means the people who aren't bad have probably moved on, making the fight seem harder then it is. As far as gear, I cleared all 3 EX primals on my Alt MNK in i72 gear and still pulled top DPS in every single one, and didn't die (PF clear group back when weekly clears were a thing). So while gear helps, again people are underestimating what they can achieve with practice and 'skill'. As much as you'd like to paint me as an elitist, I'm more then happy to offer advice to anyone asking for specific advice on a class. Just whining and saying 'its too hard nerf noawwww!' doesn't garner much sympathy however.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    I've gotten smacked through the middle by leviathan's dive (since the middle ones still throw me off sometimes) and I've survived the rest of the fight after getting raised.
    Our tank got smacked to his doom, slide off and ended right on the edge of the platform. Got raised, no problem.

    So no you're hilariously wrong.
    I went back and read what you were responding to. I misread your intentions in the context. You are right people can die and get res without much issue. I've also seen many a fair share of people slide off do to swiftcast being down, overall timing, or multiple deaths. I think Mei is definitely exaggerating on the point of *one death* = slide off and doom. It is actually usually a death leading to a death, (raise before dash, or raise into p2 wave crash) that causes swift casts to be down, and no raise in time for slam. So sorry, I think we are in agreement here. I will say in static groups its less of an issue, but in PF groups (most likely what Mei is talking about) it is very true that death will result in a downward spiral wipe.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    And beating a superbomb with 2 DPS from start to finish? lol pics or it didn't happen or you must all be sporting level 100 atmus weapons and all 100+ gear.
    I guarantee you it is possible with i80 gear even. Last night the members were i90-i92 though, yes. I really don't need pics, it should be more then obvious, and there are others who can corroborate this happening in other groups. Also keep in mind both tanks switch to the Superbomb, as there is no need to hit Titan at that point, and he doesn't cleave anyone. I like saving Unchained + Berserk + Internal release for this when I go WAR, and it is pretty huge burst.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    For the average person clearing titan ex in an average DF/PF group they will be between ilvl 80-90 and I can certainly tell you 2 dps is not enough to get past superbombs.
    The average person is bad. This is what I've been saying, as I point to my tank out DPSing many PF DD. Again, instead of blaming others, perhaps they should better themselves. Just because someone can't realize Plumes *almost always* come directly after stomps (hint this means you move soon), doesn't mean it is *hard*. The same can be said for landslides. Heck if you have trouble with patterns, print out the rotation sheet and tape it to the side of your monitor till you get it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nukocafe View Post
    P.S. If titan ex was SOOOO easy, this thread wouldn't be 8 pages long of people crying that they can't clear it.
    People cry about anything. There is another thread on BG downing T9 in a month that is longer then this. Does that mean SE should make it harder now? Just cause Titan EX isn't handed on a silver platter, doesn't make it too hard.
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    Firetta Thierremont
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    Lamia
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    The frustrating thing for me with Titan EX is that I can clear the first two phases no problem. Heart can get a bit hectic and I bet I'm not executing perfectly there. But I have very little experience post-heart, because DF just can't get me there. I'm sure I can learn it, but I usually get a couple of minutes post-heart practice if I'm lucky before we run out of time or someone rage quits because "it's so easy, why do you all suck?"
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    Arakatos Evereign
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    Gladiator Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by InfiniD View Post
    snip .
    Just hang in there. I downed Titan EM maybe 1.5 months in and can pretty much farm it now. Cleared as DPS (melee) and as tank. Practiced in DF and then after a few PFs Titan EM was downed. Not to be a total jerk, but for Titan EM, I do recommend joining/starting parties that have a rule where they have 3 strikes your out rules. Titan EM is unforgiving when you have players that take needless dmg/death or get knocked off. Those players are wasting your time and their own. They should research the fight again or form practice groups in PF, FC or just practice in DF. It may even be you who is the cause but you won't know that unless you're given fair and objective feedback which can be failing the 3 strike rule. Shit happens I know, but I either lag or poor skill players should know when to bow out for the team.
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    Aeryn Zael
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    I can attest to that. I used to hate the three strikes rule. I thought it was a bad idea to ridicule and put people on the spot for messing up.

    Then after 3 weeks of fails and frustration, I caved in and made one myself. One-shot it.
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    Traek Darksoul
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaels View Post
    I can attest to that. I used to hate the three strikes rule. I thought it was a bad idea to ridicule and put people on the spot for messing up.
    Just to be clear (not picking on you specifically Zaels), no one needs to be rude and ridicule anyone in a three strikes party. Sure you'll probably have to put someone on the spot. A simple, "Hey man what's up? Are you lagging, or was it just a derp?" might be enough. If it continues, then ask politely to remember its a three strike rule and you will have to grab another member.

    Your time is valuable, as is mine and the 6 other people in that party not messing up. They know the rules when they join, and should respect them.
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    Xanthe Dreadcasque
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    Gilgamesh
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    Samurai Lv 70
    If you have someone lagging in your party at all there is a good chance that you will not be beating Titan. I cleared him a while ago with a group that was highly geared and with no lag/unskilled players. It took us a couple of tries to finish it but we managed.

    Since the Echo buff I have been finding that it is even more difficult to clear him when your DPS (such as myself) can't contain their big DPS D. and proceed to push him through phases before he is supposed too (though it is super satisfying to kill the heart phase without the ring of bombs or the 5 way landslide).
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