Thread: 2.0 coming up on first birthday -- DPS queue issue still not addressed.

SE make some tank/healer AI players and release them to the wild.

As a new player (waited for ps4 version to start 2.0) I'm not sure I could play a tank effectively using a controller.

I'm sure it can be done just not as efficiently as with a keyboard.

So far healing had felt easy but I've only done light groups. I think it will be more difficult once I am in larger groups where a mouse/keyboard would be vastly superior.

My guess would be that PS3/PS4 players trend heavily towards DPS classes where the controller is a good fit.

Originally Posted by Gnova

As a new player (waited for ps4 version to start 2.0) I'm not sure I could play a tank effectively using a controller.

I'm sure it can be done just not as efficiently as with a keyboard.

So far healing had felt easy but I've only done light groups. I think it will be more difficult once I am in larger groups where a mouse/keyboard would be vastly superior.

My guess would be that PS3/PS4 players trend heavily towards DPS classes where the controller is a good fit.

I tank/dps on PC using controller, I played this game purely using controller from the start, it's not a problem. I have tank the first coil and extreme mode, it just take a good crosshot bar setup and you are good to go.

Not sure about other server, queue time is ok on the server I played in, I levelled 2 dps and 1 tank class during 2.0. There will always be wait time when queueing as dps, so I usually do some FATE, leve, quest or hunting log while waiting. One thing SE need to fix is that if we are doing a leve and instance pop, the leve should not be considered as fail, just reset it so that we can do it when we are out of the instance.

Oh what's that, you finally got a full party and reserved an instance but someone in that queue left? Let's disband the whole party and have the server find them all over again from scratch and wait for the server to create a whole new instance instead of saving both the existing players that didn't leave the queue and the instance that was already reserved and just finding a new player to fill that slot.

Pretty sure that's how the duty finder works most of the time or else queues would be much faster after someone leaves a spot.

Originally Posted by Roris

Oh what's that, you finally got a full party and reserved an instance but someone in that queue left? Let's disband the whole party and have the server find them all over again from scratch and wait for the server to create a whole new instance instead of saving both the existing players that didn't leave the queue and the instance that was already reserved and just finding a new player to fill that slot.

Pretty sure that's how the duty finder works most of the time or else queues would be much faster after someone leaves a spot.

why not just wait for someone to que in progress?

and no it wouldnt be faster...... DF cant find tanks or healers if there are none quing.

Originally Posted by o3o

why not just wait for someone to que in progress?

and no it wouldnt be faster...... DF cant find tanks or healers if there are none quing.

I have had bad experience with "in progress dungeons" But thats because I am a DPS. If a DPS can get into a "in progress dungeon" than that usually means the tank or the healer is really bad.

Originally Posted by Marael

Having a pretty solid guarantee that you will, in fact, get into a party in less than an hour of waiting would have been like the heavens opening up, choirs of angels singing, a hoarde of nude supermodels beckoning suggestively from the clouds, Beethoven's 9th playing somewhere in the distance, and God offering to buy me a beer, to me back then.

loled irl , yeah poor DRG

http://ffxidragoon.ytmnd.com/

Originally Posted by Marael

I saw this line in there and had to laugh. I played Dragoon in FFXI. The few. The proud. The people who wait days, even weeks before getting an invite to an XP pt. I wrote a freaking book (an embarrassingly terrible one that will never see the light of day again) while sitting in town with my seek flag up, waiting to be invited to I could just get some xp. I'd try to start my own parties, and people would say "fk no, not with a dragoon, beotch!" Having a pretty solid guarantee that you will, in fact, get into a party in less than an hour of waiting would have been like the heavens opening up, choirs of angels singing, a hoarde of nude supermodels beckoning suggestively from the clouds, Beethoven's 9th playing somewhere in the distance, and God offering to buy me a beer, to me back then. No offense intended, but good god, you can't find something to do for ONLY 30 mins while you wait? REALLY? Just sayin' that sounds really, really spoiled rotten to me. I mean, while I queue up on DPS, I'm forum hopping, doing chores around my house, indulging in my hobby of writing, watching TV, and a hundred other things. And frankly, during the hours that I am able to play, after I've put the kids to bed and my wife has gone off for her alone time, I rarely have to wait more than 5-10 mins for roulettes and/or hard mode dungeons for tome farming. I don't really get what you're complaining about.

I can feel your pain! My first job in XI was MNK, but I started well after the glory days of the KRT party. Took me 6 months to get to 75 @.@. There were far too many days where I just gave up on trying to exp after LFP for 3+ hours. So yeah, when I hear people complaining over 30 -60 minutes, it just makes me laugh. Like you mentioned, there are plenty of things you can do while in queue.

Now with that said, I may as well also go into how I also had to walk 6 miles in snow (barefoot) just to get to school. Times are different for games, and the current EXP system is already loads better than what was in Xi for the "undesirables" . As many people have said in this thread, it's not SE's fault that the majority of the community wants to play DPS. There are already incentives in place to play tank/healer, but if they put too many more in place, then the crying will start how it's so unfair that DPS don't get the same perks. Some things you just can't win.

I also think a HUGE part of the issue are the players. People can be downright brutal to new players, or even just players who may not be at the same level as themselves. What better way to blend in than to play a DPS job. Personally speaking, I have a PLD that I would love to play, but I don't. I've never actually had anything horrible said to me, but I still chicken out whenever I'm about to queue for DF/PF events. Maybe one day I'll grow a pair and just not care what people may say, but eh. Why should we have to have the skin of an elephant just to play a video game that we play for fun?

I remember clearing sastasha and tam tara in a group of mrd + gla + acn + arc, was hard but doable. And double acn perfectly substitute tank and healer in low level dungeons so u may wanna try that (but u have to shout/use pf for that). And it may be at least somewhat challenging, so u wont die from boredom.